Tonefactor/Mojo Hand Huckleberry

[kirkm24]

Has anyone used this with bass? If so how does it perform in a live band setting? I'm getting frustrated with fuzz pedals because none of them cut through a full band mix. Any input would be appreciated.

Yes, I did a search people say they use them but I have not heard comments on how they perform in a full band setting.

[TaySte_2000]

As the champion of the Huckleberry I will share my opinion.

this fuzz is fantastic, it is a hybrid so it has both GE and Si transistors so it can do harsh spitty modern fuzz to smooth 60's fuzz.

In a band setting this is the only fuzz pedal I've found works in many types of music and cuts a mix, I use mine with a barge concepts blender and my tone was huckleberry always on blended about 40% fuzz 60% clean and then fuzz 100% when I wanted a distorted tone. I found like this it gave me a very tube like tone for my very solid state amp (EA Iamp800) and then all the fuzz I could want.

The eq knob is the best thing on this pedal as that is what you will adjust to get it to cut through the mix just dial a bit of nastiness in to really push through.

Now the downside, this pedal does not like active basses at all, it can kinda manage with them but it does get very compressed and mushy. I use an impedance buffer in my barge concepts blender and it fixes this and I've used it with valenti's, overwaters and an eb bongo bass.

So to surmise you can pry this pedal from my cold dead hands and even then I'll still be fighting you.

Soundclips

http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...uckleberry.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...-%20active.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...%20passive.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...y%20Active.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...ull%20Gain.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...Tone%201_2.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...Tone%201_4.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...Tone%203_4.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...tone%201_2.mp3
http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...uckleberry.mp3

Enjoy

[kirkm24]

Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

Now the downside, this pedal does not like active basses at all, it can kinda manage with them but it does get very compressed and mushy. I use an impedance buffer in my barge concepts blender and it fixes this and I've used it with valenti's, overwaters and an eb bongo bass.

Well that aspect kind of stinks because all of my basses are active. I only intend to use this occasionally and only for single note type patterns (funky stuff). I have a Malekko B:assmaster currently but it's pretty pricey for a pedal that I don't use too much. I'll go on ahead and order a Huckleberry and see if it sounds alright (to my ears at least). If it isn't the main feature of my sound I guess I can compromise a little if it cuts through a mix.

[TaySte_2000]

Originally Posted by kirkm24

Well that aspect kind of stinks because all of my basses are active. I only intend to use this occasionally and only for single note type patterns (funky stuff). I have a Malekko B:assmaster currently but it's pretty pricey for a pedal that I don't use too much. I'll go on ahead and order a Huckleberry and see if it sounds alright (to my ears at least). If it isn't the main feature of my sound I guess I can compromise a little if it cuts through a mix.

Most fuzz's don't work with active basses it's a very common problem. There are 3 that will and are designed not to care what is infront of them.

Subdecay Flying Tomato
MI Audio GI Fuzz
MI Audio Neo Fuzz

I know the B:assmaster can also work with actives but I've never liked the tone of it in any of the clips I've heard.

I recommend you try the Subdecay I really don't think the Huckleberry will work well with G&L's and Stingrays they are like the hottest of the active basses.

[kirkm24]

Well I ordered a SubDecay Flying Tomato hopefully it works out. Tonefactor didn't have them but apparently Pro Guitar Shop did. Thanks for the input. I really dig the Boomstick Bottom Feeder so I new the Huckleberry would be quality product it just sounds like it won't work for my situation.

[TaySte_2000]

Boomstick do have a bass fuzz in the works but its going to be a few months away but it will handle active basses. I can't say much more than that at the moment.

[BigBassBob]

Boomstick do have a bass fuzz in the works but its going to be a few months away but it will handle active basses. I can't say much more than that at the moment.

This is relevant to my interests...

[bassguppy]

Is there any difference between Tonefactor & Mojo Hand? Any history lesson is appreciated.

[kirkm24]

Originally Posted by bassguppy

Is there any difference between Tonefactor & Mojo Hand? Any history lesson is appreciated.

My understanding is that Mojo Hand is a rebradning for Tonefactor pedals so yes. They have also started a bass pedal line called Boomstick which makes what used to be the "red" Analog Filter 442 by Tonefactor.

[JoshC]

Tonefactor has split into 3 sub brands to my knowledge. Mojo Hand, Boomstick, and Sinister Analog. The pedals are the same, Brad did this when he started distributing his pedals. I love my Huck and my 442 both are awesome.

[TaySte_2000]

Tonefactor is a shop www.tonefactor.com that sells a variety of pedals after a while they started to produce their own effects and after a while they started to build loads of effects and they use various builders to do various pedals and designs.

So after a while they had loads of pedals some overlapped but many were massively different and after lots of nagging by me certain pedals got bass mods like the 442 that became the 442 red and then the Boomstick Bottom Feeder.

So to make everything seem more appropriate they split them into new companies

Mojohand which covers
Huckleberry
Mule
Nebula
Mystick Octavius (OOOOO you've not heard of this have you)
Cream Pie (Special run of 10 before the trannies ran out)
Copperhead

Boomstick
Bottom Feeder

Sinister Audio
Ultra Lord
Soul Provider
Ramrod (Use to be the Red K)

So Boomstick is bass, Mojohand is traditional guitar, Sinister Audio is crazy and noise esq things

So quite a few pedals have been dropped over the years and I've owned most of them the list of discontinued Tonefactor pedals is

Hellbaby (Owned)
Hellbilly
Omega(Owned)
Pulp Mill(Own with Bass Mod)
Squeeze Factor(Owned)
Eleven(Owned)
Cream Pie(Ownx2)
Fuzzsaw(Owned)
Fuzzsaw w/Bass Mod(Own)
Mobius(Owned)
Eeyore(Owned)
75 Special
With a couple of Nick Greer and Catalinbread special designs that were exclusive to Tone Factor.

I expect the Mobius to return at some point and the eeyore as well.

After this thread I went away and I played my Huck again and it really is the best bass fuzz I've ever played but only if you have a passive bass or an impedance buffer.

[kirkm24]

Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

After this thread I went away and I played my Huck again and it really is the best bass fuzz I've ever played but only if you have a passive bass or an impedance buffer.

[Max Roberts]

Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

After this thread I went away and I played my Huck again and it really is the best bass fuzz I've ever played but only if you have a passive bass or an impedance buffer.

+1, everyone should own at least 1 of these

[kirkm24]

It sounds like a cool pedal. Too bad I have active basses (and actives with the hottest of outputs)... I ordered a Flying Tomato in light of this news.

[Dexteroth]

Little question. Is this a quiet pedal or is it rather noisy?
I'll probably pick one of these up soon.

[TaySte_2000]

Very quiet

[dannybuoy]

I hated all of those sound clips except the last one, which sounded AWESOME. Was that one recorded using the blender pedal? If so I think I need a blender!

[kirkm24]

Well I got the Huckleberry tried it with my active basses, didn't like it, sent it back. I also returned the Flying Tomato because I was getting buried in the mix with a full band. I guess I"m just not a fuzz guy.

I still love the Bottom Feeder (formerly 442 Red)though!

[Toasted]

I don't rate the Huck on bass, but as always YMMV.

[TaySte_2000]

Yeah fuzz is so subjective probably the most out any pedal with filter running a close second.

It's an expensive quest to find the perfect fuzz