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Old 10-24-2010, 02:43 PM
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I've been shopping around for Octave pedals and there are a bunch for sale in the classifieds.
Any idea why people are turning them over?

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Old 10-24-2010, 02:49 PM
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I sold my OctaBass because I like playing at the nut and it will not track at or below open A. It seems none will.
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Old 10-24-2010, 02:53 PM
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I sold my OctaBass because I like playing at the nut and it will not track at or below open A. It seems none will.
Because that's how analog octavers work.

Try a digital octaver like the EHX POG, HOG, or Micro POG. You can pull a low G.
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Old 10-24-2010, 03:58 PM
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Because that's how analog octavers work.

Try a digital octaver like the EHX POG, HOG, or Micro POG. You can pull a low G.
I know, but I'm unreasonable and want an open E.
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Old 10-24-2010, 04:00 PM
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I've been shopping around for Octave pedals and there are a bunch for sale in the classifieds.
Any idea why people are turning them over?

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they're no longer the "new hotness" - a very good octaver but IMO it is way outdone by the Aguilar.
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Old 10-24-2010, 04:05 PM
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I know, but I'm unreasonable and want an open E.
An octave down from an open E is right at 20 Hz, and will be barely audible.
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An octave down from an open E is right at 20 Hz, and will be barely audible.
But you can feel it with the right gear. More of the problem is the poor tracking makes glitchy warbling sounds.
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Old 10-24-2010, 04:22 PM
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..... what do you have against glitchy warbling sounds? they are DELICIOUS.

i have an Octabass, an Aggy Octamizer and a MXR BOD. the Aggy kills the other two and lays the eggs of it's young inside them. really dig the separate filters on the clean and octave signal.
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Old 10-24-2010, 04:36 PM
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..... what do you have against glitchy warbling sounds? they are DELICIOUS.

i have an Octabass, an Aggy Octamizer and a MXR BOD. the Aggy kills the other two and lays the eggs of it's young inside them. really dig the separate filters on the clean and octave signal.
Brutal, lol! I A/B's the BOD and Octamizer for like a week and the BOD came out on top for me. It just sounded more alive and aggressive.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:16 PM
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Some good responses.
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fwiw OCTRON > all else.

The only other one I really dug was the Ampeg.

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I still dig my Octabass.

Being analog it has a quality that other octavers I've tried don't - almost a distorted quality. I rarely use it, but on the parts I do it's farther up the neck to add the lower note.

And yeah, it doesn't really work below A, but there's a reason that they don't make basses with lower than a B string - Like bigchief said, there's not much to be heard lower than that and there's also not many cabs that can make a sound lower than 20-30Hz.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:31 AM
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Brutal, lol! I A/B's the BOD and Octamizer for like a week and the BOD came out on top for me. It just sounded more alive and aggressive.
well, Kwestals IS the man, so my opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. or whatever salt-like-replacement-substance we've decided on as a culture. is there something like Splenda? for salt? hurm.

for me...

Octabass = very round, more subtle, almost natural ie playing lower on the fretboard type octave doubling.

BOD = the Girth side sounds similar to the Octabass, the Growl side is pure awesome with the +mid switch engaged. more synthy.

Octamizer = best "effect" type octaver i've played with. VERY noticeable, in a good way. super fat. i'm too white to spell fat with a "ph". and the sweepable filters on the og signal and the octave give you a LOT of control over the tone.

i've never used the Octron. it IS s'posed to be the tits. but it's freaking huge. that.... is a lot of pedalboard real estate to give up.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:33 AM
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I still dig my Octabass.

Being analog it has a quality that other octavers I've tried don't.....
i thought the Micro Pog and most multi efx shifters like the Pitch Factor and M9/M13 were the only digital shifters right now? the MXR BOD and Aggy Octamizer are analog as well.

and the Boss PS2 WAS analog, the PS3 i think is digital.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:42 AM
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Right now, I have both a POG2 and a Whammy pedal on my board. Both are great for their own thing, but I really want some sort of analog octave as well. I might have to look into the aggy...
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fwiw OCTRON > all else.

The only other one I really dug was the Ampeg.

ymmv.
The Scrambler is the only octaver that I haven't tried that I want to. I've heard very good things.

I dig the bounce of the MuTron more than the Octron personally.

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I still dig my Octabass.

Being analog it has a quality that other octavers I've tried don't - almost a distorted quality. I rarely use it, but on the parts I do it's farther up the neck to add the lower note.
Tracking issues with analog octavers are always a weird topic for me. My goal in using them is to get a fat and often synthy tone, not necessarily to get super low sounding but it sounds like that's what a lot of people want.

I too (like most people that use them regularly I suppose) jump up on the neck when using one 90% of the time. To me it's part of using the effect, just like changing my dynamics is part of using an envelope filter.

That said, I also dig the Octabass. It's still my favorite for fretless (if I'm not trying to get a Pino like tone) and "rock" octave sounds since it still sounds "gritty" but not as harsh or synthy as the OC-2.

The Boss is still my hands down favorite for synthy combos and electronica tones.
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:01 AM
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for me...

Octabass = very round, more subtle, almost natural ie playing lower on the fretboard type octave doubling.

BOD = the Girth side sounds similar to the Octabass, the Growl side is pure awesome with the +mid switch engaged. more synthy.

i've never used the Octron. it IS s'posed to be the tits. but it's freaking huge. that.... is a lot of pedalboard real estate to give up.
I wouldn't call the Octabass subtle. It's got the grit of an analog octaver for sure, even on the "Lo" setting. And while the "Growl" side of the MXR is a dead ringer for the OC-2 tonewise, the "Girth" side does NOT sound like the EBS to me at all. Much smoother but also "flabbier" and tougher to reign in. It's nice to be able to blend some of it in to the overall sound but on it's own I greatly prefer all three modes of the Octabass.

The Octron is nice. In the last few years I've had a couple different applications for octavers and other pedals have worked better for me each time but there's no doubt it's a great pedal.

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i thought the Micro Pog and most multi efx shifters like the Pitch Factor and M9/M13 were the only digital shifters right now? the MXR BOD and Aggy Octamizer are analog as well.

and the Boss PS2 WAS analog, the PS3 i think is digital.
The Whammy is another digital octaver though obviously it does a lot more. There are a few others that are escaping my mind at the moment.

As for the PS-2 either it's digital or the people at Boss just have a weird sense of humor.

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Old 10-25-2010, 01:17 PM
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Just pulled the trigger on an Octabass.
Got it used, and I'll report back after I play with it.
Thanks for all the input.

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Old 10-25-2010, 01:22 PM
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As for the PS-2 either it's digital or the people at Boss just have a weird sense of humor.

meh. your facts and knowledge backed up by pictures mean NOTHING to me.

lol... i was thinking of the OC-2 and OC-3 i think. i am NOT a Boss guy tho. i don't really dig their stuff at all.

i'm not even a HUGE octaver fan. i love my Aggy in very specific situations. but i think i use it for maybe a 1/4 of one song right now.

i'm also not that good at playing in a "less notes = better" style. so i get too squibbly unless i'm very, very careful.

op - hope you like your Octabass!
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:33 PM
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lol... i was thinking of the OC-2 and OC-3 i think. i am NOT a Boss guy tho. i don't really dig their stuff at all.
Yeah, I figured you were thinkig of the OC-2 and OC-3 but I was just giving you a hard time.

I take Boss stuff on a case by case basis. It's not my tastes, but the BF-2 is a classic flanger. And the DM-2 is worthy of the hype, the PS-3 is just weird fun in a box, the PN-2 is a great choppy trem and the OC-2 is THE octaver for electronica tones, which is why I have one. I could go on.

Boss has made a ton of different effects so while in general I'm not a fan (especially of their dirt or bass specific pedals) they have some gems. Of course, all the ones I like seem to get discontinued.
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