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12-27-2008, 03:31 PM
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Has anyone heard of something like this? Essentually I want a pedal board that achieves a similar sound to splitting your signal into 3 amps, similar to what I think Tim C. does (please, no lengthy Tim C. corrections). I want to have a clean sound all the time, overdrive, and heavy distortion, each in seperate, parallel chanels that all can all be on at the same time if i choose to do so. This would be different than a blending option, correct? In any case, is any one using a set up like this and how can I do it. My current settup includes lots of effects with a true bypass strip and the whole sha-bang, but I want to get back to basics....loud, louder, and 11.
Also, pedal ideas for each of the three chanels are welcomed. And, my clean sound would probably have something in it, it wouldn't just be my direct bass sound. So best of clean, dirty, and dirtiest boxes are welcome.
Initial idea: an all- Tech 21 board with clean chanel containing SABDDI (clean setting), overdrive with VT bass, and the dirty being an XXL guitar version or a GT-2.
Last edited by amfmsb : 12-27-2008 at 03:40 PM.
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12-27-2008, 05:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona | | Funny this has come up quite a lot recently...
I believe this is what you are looking for - Check out this Loop pedal! | 
12-27-2008, 06:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Santa Cruz CA | | | well if its 3 channels you want... might not be the fastest/cheapest way to go- but custom is always an option.
all off=mute (no [unnecessary] pedal on/off button)- volume knob/expression. 2 things i think are important in a looper like you want are voltage/headroom- ie- over 9v. also- buffers- lots of buffers. i run straight off that looper into my power amp- so mine now is (re)built like a tank- but originally there were grounding issues/pops. | 
12-28-2008, 02:37 AM
| | Registered User Use of this field for any other purpose is prohibited | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cugy (VD), Suisse | | | I also posted a reply in your thread regarding the looper yesterday. The thing you are after is really a poor mans tri-amp setup, right? The looper with tweakable volume on each channel does that! Like i said, it is what i'm using now and i'm really happy with it.
Do you know Neil Youngs 'pedalboard'? His complete rig is really based on having just a couple of 'sounds' not so much effects. That was my goal when i started thinking about my looper. I wanted clean, overdrive and overthetopdrive plus 1 loop to put weird stuff in like phaser or envelope. By adding the volume pot to each loop you can really make the sound in terms of dynamics. To be honest, i just don't understand why you see so little loopers with volume...
Right now i use the Emma Reezafratzitz or what is it as an Overdrive and because of the added volume it really stands out. Before the sound was cool but got lost in the bandmix when i used the settings i liked best soundwise. If you like the idea i will try to get some pics and post them.
Cheers, B. | 
12-28-2008, 11:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Poor-mans tri-amp is exactly what I'm after! Well, more like convenient-mans tri-amp. Tim C's tri amp sound is awsome, but most of us have only heard that sound through our (single-amp) stereos. So, if an awsome rig can get recorded and put on a CD to be listened to on a stereo, I should be able to have a triple thick sound come out of my single bass amp & cab.
Really what I want is a triple looper that runs in parallel, not in series. They wouldn't even need volume controls for each loop because all the volume can be set within the pedals contained in the individual loops.
I would have a clean pedal in loop 1, an overdrive in 2, and a heavy distortion in 3. I could turn all on at the same time or have none on and just hear my uneffected bass tone.
I have a true bypass loop strip now, but this idea doesn't work because the strip runs in series, not parallel. Running a clean sound into an overdrive, then into a distortion doesn't sound the same as hearing all 3 sounds seperately.
I can almost achieve this with 2 boss ls-2's, but not quite. I can get the clean always on, and switch between overdrive OR distortion, but not both.
Any ideas out there? To be clear, my CLEAN sound is not my DRY sound, it will most likely be a Sansamp, clean sound.
Thanks for reading my plight. | 
12-28-2008, 11:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | | One last option that may work for you is to use an ABC type pedal and then run those 3 into some sort of mini mixer. I had a Nady MM-141 that I was doing this with (two signals) and it worked pretty well. A touch noisy if you tried to run any signals too weak, but hardly noticeable live. Will probably be easier to find than a custom job. Good luck. | 
12-29-2008, 12:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona | | | Ohhhhhhh I get it now. If you could find the same idea except with three send/receive loops that would work but I have never seen anything beyond two. You might be able to custom order something like that. If no one else comes up with something better, you could try contacting loop-master and see if they could either make a triple looper like you want or an ABC-Y box (could have two of these to split signal three ways and then conjoin them again into one after effects and before amp). | 
12-29-2008, 12:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Santa Cruz CA | | | no offense to those who use/like it- but ive done the mixer thing- and youre really better off going custom- basic shouldnt cost you all that much- at least not much more than a mixer. plus- a mixer would have eq- and it seems you dont need that. also- a mixer would take up more room- unless it doesnt have much/any eq on the channels- plus itd probably have volume for each channel- which you also dont need. occams razor- get a custom looper quote. | 
01-02-2009, 02:29 PM
| | Registered User Use of this field for any other purpose is prohibited | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cugy (VD), Suisse | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TOOL460002 no offense to those who use/like it- but ive done the mixer thing- and youre really better off going custom- basic shouldnt cost you all that much- at least not much more than a mixer. plus- a mixer would have eq- and it seems you dont need that. also- a mixer would take up more room- unless it doesnt have much/any eq on the channels- plus itd probably have volume for each channel- which you also dont need. occams razor- get a custom looper quote. |
I agree, used a mixer as well but only for testing something and apart from the above it should be really good not to mess with your sound quality.
Go custom! You know what you want. What you want is not that hard so should be payable. Besides imho custom is just the way to go.
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