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Old 01-03-2008, 05:47 PM
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This is something that was stated by Higgie where he/she/it said that Envelope Filter Gets Thrown around and is often Missed Used.

So Could Yall Name off some (real) Envelope Filters?

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I don't really understand the build-up to the question. I'd call the Mu-Tron III, the Mu-Tron III+ (which everyone here hates passionately), the Electro-Harmonix Q-Tron, Q-Tron+, maybe the Bassballs, and so on envelope filters.

Or, EHX (Electro-Harmonix' abbreviation) makes a rack-mounted envelope filter that is beau coups expensive, and rarer than a Bass Micro Synthesizer, Stereo Polychorus AND a green Sovtek Big Muff in the same store. That's all I know about it.
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My understanding is that it is appropriate to call an effect an envelope filter as long as it uses an envelope follower to determine the volume level of a signal, which triggers a filter sweep. This is as opposed to manually sweeping the filter (as in a wah pedal), or using an LFO to sweep the filter, which is usually called an auto-wah. In that case, all of the pedals mentioned above qualify.
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My understanding is that it is appropriate to call an effect an envelope filter as long as it uses an envelope follower to determine the volume level of a signal, which triggers a filter sweep. This is as opposed to manually sweeping the filter (as in a wah pedal), or using an LFO to sweep the filter, which is usually called an auto-wah. In that case, all of the pedals mentioned above qualify.
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That's exactly what Higgie was talking about, unclejam.

Envelope filters include the qtron, mutron, maxon af-9, auto wahs include the boss aw-2 and some others...? lol
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it is appropriate to call an effect an envelope filter as long as it uses an envelope follower to determine the volume level of a signal, which triggers a filter sweep. This is as opposed to manually sweeping the filter (as in a wah pedal), or using an LFO to sweep the filter, which is usually called an auto-wah.
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My understanding is that it is appropriate to call an effect an envelope filter as long as it uses an envelope follower to determine the volume level of a signal, which triggers a filter sweep. This is as opposed to manually sweeping the filter (as in a wah pedal), or using an LFO to sweep the filter, which is usually called an auto-wah. In that case, all of the pedals mentioned above qualify.
+ infinite.

That's what I was getting at. Envelope filters are controlled by the volume of the signal, therefore, the harder you dig in, the more prominent the effect.

Another example of an auto-wah would be the MXR Bass Auto Q in it's "shimmer" mode. You set the rate, and the pedal automatically wahs back and forth. Like any modulation pedal, only with a wah sound.

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Old 01-04-2008, 07:40 AM
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