True By Pass

oldprussians · #1 06-19-2009, 05:45 AM

Apart form EBS, which Pedal Manufacture offers a True By Pass on their pedals?? Does any one know??

takfar · #2 06-19-2009, 05:51 AM

EHX does. My Korg Pitchblack is TBP, and Ibanez says the Weeping Demon is TBP when not engaged, don`t know about their other pedals.

MAMMOTHvolume · #3 06-19-2009, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by takfar

EHX does.

quite a few older ehx harmonix pedals aren't "true bypass"

takfar · #4 06-19-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MAMMOTHvolume

quite a few older ehx harmonix pedals aren't "true bypass"

Well, the OP asked who offers TPB, and all my EHX pedals are TPB..

oldprussians · #5 06-19-2009, 06:11 AM

Although on my other thread, My Ultimate Pedal Board I said I wouldn't change anything, I think I'll have to change to EBS pedals.... Sigh!

I love my new amp, and although the tone suck is tiny, it is still there and it is starting to annoy me......

RDUB · #6 06-19-2009, 06:26 AM

Fulltone

irvinz · #7 06-19-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oldprussians

Although on my other thread, My Ultimate Pedal Board I said I wouldn't change anything, I think I'll have to change to EBS pedals.... Sigh!

I love my new amp, and although the tone suck is tiny, it is still there and it is starting to annoy me......

the start of an addict

Nikoubis · #8 06-19-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by oldprussians

Although on my other thread, My Ultimate Pedal Board I said I wouldn't change anything, I think I'll have to change to EBS pedals.... Sigh!

I love my new amp, and although the tone suck is tiny, it is still there and it is starting to annoy me......

A long chain of TBP pedals may suck tone as well...

Also, from the EBS site:

Q7: Do the EBS pedals use true bypass?

Some EBS pedals do and some use a different technique called Active Silent Switching. This technique works similar to True Bypass as long as the pedal is powered and let you switch the pedal on and off while maintaining the tone without any unwanted pops interrupting the sound. Which one using True Bypass or not is stated in the technical specifications for each pedal.

dannybuoy · #9 06-19-2009, 07:55 AM

Only the new editions of EBS pedals are true bypass. Most on the 2nd hand market are the older buffered bypass.

aMUSEd · #10 06-19-2009, 07:56 AM

what do you mean? True bypass only means the the whole circuit is taken out of the signal path...this can be done by a switch (Hardware-true-bypass) or electrical

gm jack · #11 06-19-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by takfar

EHX does. My Korg Pitchblack is TBP, and Ibanez says the Weeping Demon is TBP when not engaged, don`t know about their other pedals.

Weeping Demon isn't actually TBP. It's a bit of false advertising.

takfar · #12 06-19-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gm jack

Weeping Demon isn't actually TBP. It's a bit of false advertising.

Yea, I suspected so. It would pretty strange to have TBP on an auto-activating wah (risking constant popping), but that's what they say in the manual. I guess someone could sue them over that...? The bypass on it is pretty good, either way, I love that pedal.

**TheMutt** · #13 06-19-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by oldprussians

Although on my other thread, My Ultimate Pedal Board I said I wouldn't change anything, I think I'll have to change to EBS pedals.... Sigh!

I love my new amp, and although the tone suck is tiny, it is still there and it is starting to annoy me......

So the GAS has started hitting... There's a lot of companies out there that are offering current-stock true-bypass (TBP) models on the market. Although there is no tone suck inherent in TBP pedals whether hardwire bypass (mechanical) or relay bypass (electrical) they do have their downsides. TBP pedals will click or pop when engaged. Maybe not when you buy them, maybe not all the time, but it will happen. It's also a good idea to keep at least one buffered (non-TBP) pedal in the signal chain to help decrease the tone suck caused by the capacitance of long runs of cable (a long row of TBP pedals is essentially the addition of cable between each pedal, plus the cable inside the pedal itself).

**TheMutt** · #14 06-19-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gm jack

Weeping Demon isn't actually TBP. It's a bit of false advertising.

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Originally Posted by takfar

Yea, I suspected so. It would pretty strange to have TBP on an auto-activating wah (risking constant popping), but that's what they say in the manual. I guess someone could sue them over that...? The bypass on it is pretty good, either way, I love that pedal.

Maybe it was an abbreviation of a statement?
TRUE, you can BYPASS this pedal.

takfar · #15 06-19-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMutt

Maybe it was an abbreviation of a statement?
TRUE, you can BYPASS this pedal.

Yea, I guess that's what their lawyers would say when pressed :P

btw, if someone does go the "sue" route, remember to cut me in with a couple percent of the revenue

headtrip762 · #16 06-19-2009, 04:09 PM

Homebrew Electronics pedals are all TBP.

Wasted Bassist · #17 06-19-2009, 04:10 PM

You could keep your same pedals and invest in a small true bypass looper. It can be had fairly easily to you specifications.

headtrip762 · #18 06-19-2009, 04:35 PM

Yep that was suposed to be in my answer lol. Check out loopmaster.com, they have a bunch of nifty gadgets.

fightthepower · #19 06-19-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by headtrip762

Yep that was suposed to be in my answer lol. Check out loopmaster.com, they have a bunch of nifty gadgets.

Yeah the loopmaster is pretty nifty- finally a simple way to improve your casting stroke! Im not much of a fisherman though... Loop-master.com has some sweet stuff though

raymondl3 · #20 06-19-2009, 07:49 PM

Xotic, T-REX