Upgrading from many pedals, to a few great pedals.

J. Crawford · #1 09-24-2009, 07:45 PM

Hey guys,

I havent been in here for months! It seems like forever!

But what Im wondering is, my pedalboard isnt getting much use. I really only use my OC-2, and BBM.

What Im wondering is, should I sell my other pedals and buy some REALLY good pedals, and have a smaller board? I would love to have a 5 or 6 pedal pedalboard. I dont need all of them, and I dont use all of them.

A good filter, a good delay, and a tuner.

Maybe some kind of wah, as Im not diggin my Dunlop too much. Lots of volume spikes, and its just not my thing.

Thanks in advance guys!
J.

EDIT: I want a VT Bass.. I have lots of cash to work with, and if pedals sell thats even more!

fightthepower · #2 09-24-2009, 07:49 PM

Regarding the Dunlop-- if you like the resonant sound with the Q turned up, you'll get spikes with any wah or filter. You can control the spikes by turning the Q down so that it isn't as resonant/quacky, but you'll lose some of the funk in the process. That's not to say that you shouldn't look into other wah's, but keep in mind that volume spikes are a necessary evil to some degree when using resonant filters; you can still get a funky sound without spikes, it just generally won't be as wet sounding (mutron/qtron vs meatball for instance; the meatball doesn't spike as much even with the resonance dimed, but its still super funky)

J. Crawford · #3 09-24-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fightthepower

Regarding the Dunlop-- if you like the resonant sound with the Q turned up, you'll get spikes with any wah or filter. You can control the spikes by turning the Q down so that it isn't as resonant/quacky, but you'll lose some of the funk in the process. That's not to say that you shouldn't look into other wah's, but keep in mind that volume spikes are a necessary evil to some degree when using resonant filters; you can still get a funky sound without spikes, it just generally won't be as wet sounding (mutron/qtron vs meatball for instance; the meatball doesn't spike as much even with the resonance dimed, but its still super funky)

My Qtron isnt exactly what I want either. It doesnt track bass too well.

But yes, I know what youre saying. But the sound quality of EBS, for example, seem sooo much better.

Ziltoid · #4 09-24-2009, 07:54 PM

I'm really curious about suggestions regarding these two

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A good filter, a good delay,

J. Crawford · #5 09-24-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziltoid

I'm really curious about suggestions regarding these two

3Leaf for the filter

BOSS DD-2, DD-20.

But there are lots of others.

jucas · #6 09-24-2009, 08:16 PM

Delay-I'd either buy a malekko 600 or a boss dd-7. Probably the boss, but I kinda like digital delays.

Also, there's some turbo tuner thats gotten a few threads worth of pretty positive reviews if you don't have one already.

And yeah, I support the less pedals, but better (do what you want, not necessarily more expensive) pedals. Keep it fairly simple.

RCCollins · #7 09-24-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Crawford

My Qtron isnt exactly what I want either. It doesnt track bass too well.

But yes, I know what youre saying. But the sound quality of EBS, for example, seem sooo much better.

EBS BassIQ

but i'd like to mention that there can't be a bass tracking problem with the q-tron - envelope filters don't "track"

J. Crawford · #8 09-24-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RCCollins

EBS BassIQ

but i'd like to mention that there can't be a bass tracking problem with the q-tron - envelope filters don't "track"

You know me, Im not the smartest when it comes to terminology!

What I mean is, it doesnt seem like it has a good sound with bass. It sounds great on the high pass and BP settings, but they sound very sterile, and terrible in a band setting. Absolutely no bass.

Im thinking a good filter, a good delay, the VT, and a tuner.

Then I would have:
Delay
Tuner
Octave
Muff/Fuzz
Filter

I think that works for the funk, blues, and rock I play.

Ziltoid · #9 09-24-2009, 08:28 PM

I checked the 3leaf and it's awesome, I'm sold but can't afford it in a close future...xmas is coming right?

J. Crawford · #10 09-24-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziltoid

I checked the 3leaf and it's awesome, I'm sold but can't afford it in a close future...xmas is coming right?

Spencer!, the maker of them, is a member here and a good friend of mine.

PM him, see whats up.

I think Ill do that right now!

RCCollins · #11 09-24-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Crawford

You know me, Im not the smartest when it comes to terminology!

What I mean is, it doesnt seem like it has a good sound with bass. It sounds great on the high pass and BP settings, but they sound very sterile, and terrible in a band setting. Absolutely no bass.

That's kind of the nature of those filters - Highpass filters out the lows, and band pass filters out a "band" in the middle. Those settings aren't necessarily ideal for bass

Only LP is really conventionally useable on the Q-tron. If you have the QTron+, the blendable BP can sound good too.

warwick.hoy · #12 09-24-2009, 08:55 PM

I could never get a good sound out of my Q-Tron. I wasn't too FX savvy when I had it. I would love to give it another go, but the 3Leaf is next on my gas list. Actually an AWD Wagon is next on my gas list so all pedal purchases have been put on hold. Some might even go on the chopping block; not because I don't want them, but some things are a little more important than others at the moment.

Delays you'll probably need to experiment with till you find one you like. The delay I previously had was cool, but probably better suited for guitar. I've yet to find a unit that I have to have.

The Sonic Research ST-200 is a pricey but excellent tuner. Or you could just get a Korg Pitchblack or Boss TU-2. They'll get you where you need to be.

A compressor might help tame your Dunlop a little bit.

J. Crawford · #13 09-24-2009, 09:34 PM

I'm thinking,

3Leaf
BBM
OC-2
Pitchblack
VT bass
DD-7 or sumfin
Some kind of line selector.

Ziltoid · #14 09-24-2009, 09:55 PM

Hehe, our lists are similar :P i wonder why :roll:

pedalguy1 · #15 09-24-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Crawford

I'm thinking,

3Leaf
BBM
OC-2
Pitchblack
VT bass
DD-7 or sumfin
Some kind of line selector.

Sounds like a simple and really effective board. I really like the look of the 3Leaf. If you going to miss the foot control ability of the Dunlop though, I know a lot of people dig the Wilson wahs, they seem pretty versitle too.

selfblessed · #16 09-24-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jucas

Keep it fairly simple.

+1

cheapbasslovin · #17 09-24-2009, 10:35 PM

If you prefer the HP and BP modes on your QTron but hate the bass loss, I highly recommend getting yourself an LS-2 or other blender. I have a couple of clips in the wiki of a Micro Q-tron in BP and HP with a blender if you want a listen. If you like that, then I bet you'd really dig running your OC-2 in parallel with your Q-Tron in those modes.

Octave and filter in parallel= Über Funk.

IMO.

phatbass30 · #18 09-24-2009, 11:10 PM

i use to have this board:

then this:

but all this time, i realized that these pedals are the ones i always use and need. so this is my board at the moment:

Gashaponcito · #19 09-25-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by phatbass30

but all this time, i realized that these pedals are the ones i always use and need. so this is my board at the moment:

I like your board where can I hear some of your stuff?

phatbass30 · #20 09-25-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gashaponcito

I like your board where can I hear some of your stuff?

thanks!

well, i am a working musician. i play in a cover band. so i don't have my own stuffs to show. i got some at youtube but its not interesting, just cover music.

but i appreciate you asking.