Whammy question

[ChorusPedal88]

So my cousin got hold of a bass whammy today and I was playing about with it in the infamous Justin Chancellor from Tool setting and doodled Schism and Disposition, and got a perfect sound for an intro to a song my band recorded, but unfortunately the bass whammy didnt belong to my cousin, I can't I find one and even if I did I probably couldnt afford it, so I was wondering if there are any similar options out there i.e PS-3 or a digitech whammy IV/original guitar whammy on bass?

Thanks in advance!

[TheWoodShed]

You can have a standard Whammy IV modified by Molten Core Pedals.

Also, two other options are the Boss PS-5 with an expression pedal (not sure if it can get the JC setting though) and a Pitchfactor with an expression pedal as well.

[Jared Lash]

Eventide Pitchfactor will do all the Bass Whammy functions and a lot more. But of while less than a used Digitech it certainly isn't cheap either.

[gnasher1993]

Originally Posted by TheWoodShed

You can have a standard Whammy IV modified by Molten Core Pedals.

Also, two other options are the Boss PS-5 with an expression pedal (not sure if it can get the JC setting though) and a Pitchfactor with an expression pedal as well.

That would be Molten Voltage

Also, the PS-5 can't do the 5th up/oct up you hear on Schism and Disposition. I think the PS-3 can though, you may want to double check.

The Pitchfactor definitely can with an expression pedal. Definitely not cheap but has loads of features.

[TheWoodShed]

Originally Posted by gnasher1993

That would be Molten Voltage

Thanks gnasher!

I have that site bookmarked, as my Whammy will be headed there for a TB mod.

[Scionreality]

Correct, the PS-5 can't do that setting, but YES the PS-3 can do two different pitches simultaniously, and sweeps with the addition of an expression pedal. It's on my list of near-future buys.

I'll definately have to look into that Whammy IV mod though. Thanks TheWoodShed/gnasher1993!

[Swimming Bird]

PS-3 can do it with an expression pedal, but tracking is awful IMO.

+1 for expensive, the Pitchfactor is the best thing since tubes.

Whammy IV tracks alright. It's a little more cash than the mod, but you may be better off with Molten Voltage's external midi controller rather than internal mods.

[fivestringgecko]

Hmm! Digitech Whammy + Molten Voltage = my interest is piqued!

Off to search the interwebs........

5sg.

[Getaway Driver]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

Hmm! Digitech Whammy + Molten Voltage = my interest is piqued!

Off to search the interwebs........

5sg.

which will end up costing you $400-$500. A bass whammy will go for $600+, usually over $700 for one in decent condition. The Pitchfactor is running about $500 it seems now. A whammy IV by itself will do you a lot of good, you don't absolutely need the 5th up/Oct up. Sure, it's useful for a bassist, but not necessary.

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by Getaway Driver

which will end up costing you $400-$500. A bass whammy will go for $600+, usually over $700 for one in decent condition. The Pitchfactor is running about $500 it seems now. A whammy IV by itself will do you a lot of good, you don't absolutely need the 5th up/Oct up. Sure, it's useful for a bassist, but not necessary.

Yeah, kinda figured that out when I saw their site... Not quite so interested anymore. lol

5sg.

[TheWoodShed]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

Yeah, kinda figured that out when I saw their site... Not quite so interested anymore. lol

5sg.

Huh?

$80.00 for the upper mod and $80.00 for the lower mod, including the mini toggle equals $160.00.

IF you paid MSRP for a new one, that would be $360.00. That is a lot less than $600.00 for a bass whammy, isn't it?

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by TheWoodShed

Huh?

$80.00 for the upper mod and $80.00 for the lower mod, including the mini toggle equals $160.00.

IF you paid MSRP for a new one, that would be $360.00. That is a lot less than $600.00 for a bass whammy, isn't it?

Agreed, that's not bad at all, but I'm not convinced I'd really NEED those mods... I guess I was kind of hoping they were mods that tuned the pedal more for bass frequencies, you know? Example, I had my Sparkle Drive modded by Keeley and the pedal seems so much more open and there's WAY more drive available.

I don't know... I've wanted a Whammy for a while, I guess I should play with one to see if I like the basic pedal and then decide about the mods.

Do you have one of these modded Whammy IV's? First, how does the basic pedal sound and then, are the mods worth it?

Thanks for the info!

5sg.

[bigchiefbc]

Also, look around for an old Digitech XP-100 Whammy/Wah, it has the two harmony modes that Chancellor used in addition to a ton of others. You can usually get them on eBay for between 100 and 200.

[Racermech]

I was looking at getting a pitchfactor so I could finally get the 5th/Oct up setting, and then I got my hands on an M13.

With the latest software patch and using an expression pedal, you can do any whammy setting you want to.

I think the m13's are going on the bay for about $350 now.

[Getaway Driver]

Originally Posted by TheWoodShed

Huh?

$80.00 for the upper mod and $80.00 for the lower mod, including the mini toggle equals $160.00.

IF you paid MSRP for a new one, that would be $360.00. That is a lot less than $600.00 for a bass whammy, isn't it?

Shipping will cost a bit too, it'll be $400+ish total. If you're already spending $400 on the pedal, why not just save an extra hundred and snag a pitchfactor?

I think the BP-80 multi-effects pedal can do the 5th up/Oct up and is tailored for bass. They run $99. I could be wrong, but either way it's got some whammy options and is the cheapest alternative.

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by Getaway Driver

Shipping will cost a bit too, it'll be $400+ish total. If you're already spending $400 on the pedal, why not just save an extra hundred and snag a pitchfactor?

My math says you'd actually be paying an extra hundred for the Pitchfactor... not to mention extra cost of the expression you'd have to add?

Originally Posted by Getaway Driver

I think the BP-80 multi-effects pedal can do the 5th up/Oct up and is tailored for bass. They run $99. I could be wrong, but either way it's got some whammy options and is the cheapest alternative.

Huh. I've got one of those just sitting around, might have to dust it off. Picked it up when I was still fairly new to effects, apparently I didn't know everything it could do... Maybe I've had my whammy under my nose the whole time? lol

[Getaway Driver]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

My math says you'd actually be paying an extra hundred for the Pitchfactor... not to mention extra cost of the expression you'd have to add?

Save up an extra hundred. be patient.

[MoltenVoltage]

If all you want is the 5th Up > Octave Up harmony setting you just need the Lower Pitch Limiter mod [$55]

If you want a heavy duty mini toggle switch with it, add $25 ($45 less the $20 multiple mod discount).

All of our mods are listed on this page:
http://www.moltenvoltage.com/whammy_mods.html

As of 1/7/2010, we can get you a new Whammy IV for $179 (future price may vary).

Shipping is via Priority Mail using the flat rate box which is $15.40 with $300 insurance (in the US). If you want to see the international rates, check out:
http://postcalc.usps.gov/

We don't add anything to the shipping.

Any other questions, just let us know. Thanks for the interest!

- MV

[TheWoodShed]

Originally Posted by Getaway Driver

Shipping will cost a bit too, it'll be $400+ish total. If you're already spending $400 on the pedal, why not just save an extra hundred and snag a pitchfactor?

The Pictchfactor looks nice, but the disadvantages seem to be real estate and complexity to me.

[TheWoodShed]

So, about $275.00 it looks like.

Originally Posted by MoltenVoltage

If all you want is the 5th Up > Octave Up harmony setting you just need the Lower Pitch Limiter mod [$55]

If you want a heavy duty mini toggle switch with it, add $25 ($45 less the $20 multiple mod discount).

All of our mods are listed on this page:
http://www.moltenvoltage.com/whammy_mods.html

As of 1/7/2010, we can get you a new Whammy IV for $179 (future price may vary).

Shipping is via Priority Mail using the flat rate box which is $15.40 with $300 insurance (in the US). If you want to see the international rates, check out:
http://postcalc.usps.gov/

We don't add anything to the shipping.

Any other questions, just let us know. Thanks for the interest!

- MV