What is the best synth pedal?

[Bassist30]

I know I know, if i look into the threads I will find lots of information. But.... with some of the added and so called new synth pedals like the OCTAVIUS, how is this pedal standing next to some of the older synth pedals? What is coming out also? What tracks the best? What gives you the best bass synth sounds or should i say usable synth sounds around.
Some of the Octavius sound clips on TB sound like birds (not saying thats bad or unusable to some). Not looking to do a show about the forest. Basically what I am saying what is out there that gives you real bass synth sounds relative to say a mini moog or related?

[kevteop]

Originally Posted by Bassist30

What is coming out also?

Nothing.

Originally Posted by Bassist30

What tracks the best?

Korg G5

Originally Posted by Bassist30

What gives you the best bass synth sounds or should i say usable synth sounds around.

Usable in what context?

Originally Posted by Bassist30

what is out there that gives you real bass synth sounds relative to say a mini moog or related?

Nothing.

[RCCollins]

well a minimoog can make practically any sound... including the bird sounds you're trying to avoid. If you give us a more specific example, e might be able to point you in a certain direction, but no effect pedal will transform a bass into a synthesizer.

I'm guessing that you want to play those Bernie Worrell style bass synth sounds like on "Flashlight" by Parliament. Well, there's currently no bass pedal that can stack octaves the same way a synth can. You can get close with a combination of effect pedals: octave, fuzz, envelope filter, etc but you're still using strings to generate the input signal, so it will always sound a bit off.

[Tekken]

I've the Korg G5 and the Akai Deep Impact SB-1.

Hearing to the samples audio on official chunk systems web site and to the TB user's ones, I've found it more a "synth FX" pedal than a classic synth device: so more distant, IMHO, from getting MiniMoog sound types (but I haven't tried it).

I can get some tones very close to the "The Wu" and "Chilli" sound of the great Bobby Sparks (Marcus Miller's keyboard player) by combinig , in order, the Korg G5 with the OC-2 and using the Akai SB-1 alone:
http://www.myspace.com/drbobbysparks

[Bassist30]

Originally Posted by RCCollins

well a minimoog can make practically any sound... including the bird sounds you're trying to avoid. If you give us a more specific example, e might be able to point you in a certain direction, but no effect pedal will transform a bass into a synthesizer.

I'm guessing that you want to play those Bernie Worrell style bass synth sounds like on "Flashlight" by Parliament. Well, there's currently no bass pedal that can stack octaves the same way a synth can. You can get close with a combination of effect pedals: octave, fuzz, envelope filter, etc but you're still using strings to generate the input signal, so it will always sound a bit off.

I guess I should just wait. Never heard the Deep Impact or heard up close the octivius. At this time I have an older AXON 100 B. Looking for that pedal that would give a multi octave lower register that is heard with so many synths today. I guess there isn't anything out there. Thanks for the info.

[Bassist30]

Originally Posted by Tekken

I've the Korg G5 and the Akai Deep Impact SB-1.

Hearing to the samples audio on official chunk systems web site and to the TB user's ones, I've found it more a "synth FX" pedal than a classic synth device: so more distant, IMHO, from getting MiniMoog sound types (but I haven't tried it).

I can get some tones very close to the "The Wu" and "Chilli" sound of the great Bobby Sparks (Marcus Miller's keyboard player) by combinig , in order, the Korg G5 with the OC-2 and using the Akai SB-1 alone:
http://www.myspace.com/drbobbysparks

I like that. Seems the akai is a real winner. Could have gotten one when they started to discontinue it for 99.00 dollars.

[RCCollins]

Originally Posted by Bassist30

I guess I should just wait. Never heard the Deep Impact or heard up close the octivius. At this time I have an older AXON 100 B. Looking for that pedal that would give a multi octave lower register that is heard with so many synths today. I guess there isn't anything out there. Thanks for the info.

well, you could use a combination of effects - say, a Bass Microsynth for octave down, dry signal, and some octave up, plus the filter sweep, then into a peachy fuzz, then into an octave down.

Or you could get a full-sized POG or a HOG, don't those have multi octave down sliders?

But you're likely to be disappointed by the results. If you think of it as creating a synth sound, it can be cool. But if you're trying to cop the sound of a minimoog or whatever, well, that ain't gonna happen

[tomvelsor]

Originally Posted by Bassist30

I know I know, if i look into the threads I will find lots of information. But.... with some of the added and so called new synth pedals like the OCTAVIUS, how is this pedal standing next to some of the older synth pedals? What is coming out also? What tracks the best? What gives you the best bass synth sounds or should i say usable synth sounds around.
Some of the Octavius sound clips on TB sound like birds (not saying thats bad or unusable to some). Not looking to do a show about the forest. Basically what I am saying what is out there that gives you real bass synth sounds relative to say a mini moog or related?

i totally agree with you about octavius. granted this thread is a little redundant, i have to give my input

octavius (though i havent tried one) from what i can gather definately sounds great, but it sounds like a bass GUITAR synth. the korg G5 sounds like a key synth (within reason)

i owned a deep impact for a little while, its great, i also owned a bass micro synth for 2 hours before it died and it sounded pretty good, but the sliders make it pretty useless and the G5 hands down sounds way better.

[rratajski]

My favorite is the search synth. It's really useful on bass.

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If someone copped the mini moog tone, it would be on here for sure! Lots of moog lovers aaaaand BMS addicts... Good luck!

[Gashaponcito]

i think I got a more Old School sounding effect... check it out
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[kevteop]

Originally Posted by tomvelsor

i also owned a bass micro synth for 2 hours before it died and it sounded pretty good, but the sliders make it pretty useless and the G5 hands down sounds way better.

I would disagree with that. The G5 sounds a little bit more authentic in terms of the base waveforms you get out of it, and the tracking is awesome, but the filter sounds like **** and it's impossible to completely avoid the envelope follower, which drives me nuts.

The G5 sounds pretty weedy a lot of the time. It's really only got two or three useful sounds in there and it's difficult/impossible to stop the filter from ruining them.

[Tekken]

Originally Posted by kevteop

it's difficult/impossible to stop the filter from ruining them.

That's partially true, even if from mine I've got sounds very similar to minimoog sounds, without the envelope sweep...

Originally Posted by kevteop

The G5 sounds pretty weedy

True: in fact I've in the effect loop also a BBE Soni Stomp to make the sounds from the G5 more fat and clear...

However, the best bass stomp synth is, IMHO:
- Akai Deep Impact SB1 for envelope synth weird sounds;
- Korg G5 (+ octaver pedal) for minimoog kinds of sounds.

[kevteop]

Originally Posted by Tekken

That's partially true, even if from mine I've got sounds very similar to minimoog sounds, without the envelope sweep...

I can't get the sweep to stop completely. Even with decay all the way anti-clockwise there's a little sweep on the note attack. It's infuriating.

I don't have the exp. pedal on my board at the moment but I seem to recall plugging that in and setting the "intensity" (nonsensity) to the middle setting to stop the envelope follower, but I swear I could still hear the bloody thing!

[Grimoire]

I've never thought the G5 sounds weedy, far from it. The octave down square wave patches are massive. Of course I never use any of my synths stand alone - they always have delays/chorus/reverb and such after them. That goes for both the G5 and SB1. These things need some extra processing to get the best results...

[Bassist30]

Got my eye on a G5. Seems like this would be close to a mini moog within reason. Anybody got any sound clips of it?