What is a "black label" EBS pedal??

[Jammin'ForJesus]

I've seen talk around here, especially in the for sale section, of "black label" EBS pedals. From the little bit I've read, it seems that they are more desirable, and more valuable.

What exactly is a "black label" EBS pedal, how are they different from current production EBS pedals, and how can I tell if my UniChorus is a black label?

Drop some quick knowledge on my please...

Thanks!

[rr5025]

I'm just taking a stab (I don't have any EBS stuff) and basing it off the Boss Black Label stuff - If there's a black label on the back?

[soulplane83]

All current EBS pedals are "black label". The original models were grey in color. The more recent ones are black.

[Crystalman85]

If you want sound samples of the ebs black label pedals, you can check them out on their website.

www.ebssweden.com

[Lesfunk]

Originally Posted by soulplane83

All current EBS pedals are "black label". The original models were grey in color. The more recent ones are black.

True dat. "Black Label" is like a Gen 2 pedal.

[RickenBoogie]

The black label pedals are also all true bypass, where the earlier pedals weren't. They had a great buffer in them though, but it seems most folks prefer true bypass, even if they don't know why.

[bassybill]

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

The black label pedals are also all true bypass, where the earlier pedals weren't. They had a great buffer in them though, but it seems most folks prefer true bypass, even if they don't know why.

[Jammin'ForJesus]

Thanks so much guys!

RASPEKT

[wvbass]

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

The black label pedals are also all true bypass, where the earlier pedals weren't. They had a great buffer in them though, but it seems most folks prefer true bypass, even if they don't know why.

Doh! Isn't EBS in their 3rd generation of pedals?

Gen 1: "Grey label" with gray boxes
Gen 2: "Black label" with black boxes, not true bypass
Ben 3: "Black label" with black boxes, is true bypass.

Pretty sure about this...since by black label pedals are not true bypass and the new ones are...

[1kinal]

Originally Posted by wvbass

Doh! Isn't EBS in their 3rd generation of pedals?

Gen 1: "Grey label" with gray boxes
Gen 2: "Black label" with black boxes, not true bypass
Ben 3: "Black label" with black boxes, is true bypass.

Pretty sure about this...since by black label pedals are not true bypass and the new ones are...

True. And for those wondering if they have a 2nd or 3rd generation black, "true bypass" is written just below the footswitch for the 3rd gen.

[Jammin'ForJesus]

Originally Posted by 1kinal

True. And for those wondering if they have a 2nd or 3rd generation black, "true bypass" is written just below the footswitch for the 3rd gen.

Correct, so this is the final list of EBS pedal evolution...

Gen 1: "Grey label" with grey boxes
Gen 2: "Black label" with black boxes, not true bypass
Ben 3: "Black label True Bypass" with black boxes, and "True Bypass" stamped below the bypass switch

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

... it seems most folks prefer true bypass, even if they don't know why.

So true!

[SoonerMatt]

Also, as has been reported by many people, EBS pedals tend to "go bad" over time, so the newer ones are much more desirable since they have more time left in them.

[sutarappa]

Originally Posted by SoonerMatt

Also, as has been reported by many people, EBS pedals tend to "go bad" over time, so the newer ones are much more desirable since they have more time left in them.

yeah, what? messin' around or superstitious?

[SoonerMatt]

Originally Posted by sutarappa

yeah, what? messin' around or superstitious?

Look at MultiComp reviews, many people have said it develops problems earlier than other pedals.

[bassjam]

Originally Posted by SoonerMatt

Look at MultiComp reviews, many people have said it develops problems earlier than other pedals.

Yeah Ive posted before-I think they sold me a faulty one.Ive used mine on numerous gigs over the last few years without a single issue!

[casio]

I have a second gen non-true bypass UniChorus and I like it. Not my main chorus, but the buffer is quite good.
And yes, they do tend to go bad. Though what happened to mine is that both the knobs got stomped in...and I don't stomp that hard!

[Jammin'ForJesus]

Wow the one EBS black label that I owned I thought had the beefiest case design and feel out if any pedal I've owned. I'm surprised the fall apart on the road.

[Jammin'ForJesus]

From me...

"Hello, I have one of your EBS DynaVerb Pedals, and I was
wondering how I can tell if the pedal is the latest version?

How many different versions of DynaVerb have you produced over the years,
and how can I differentiate which version is which?

I would like your newest DynaVerb with the updated circuitry and more
headroom capability.

Thank you!

-Nick Nardone"


From EBS...

"Hi Nick,

The old model came in the original version and a slightly updated version -
both with the exact same look and hard to differ from one another by the
looks. The new one is available in one original version and one with an
improved type of switch.

The new circuitry are used in all pedals that has "True Bypass" printed on
the top, and delivered in a box with 4-color print.

If you have a chance to look inside the pedal, the latest are the ones where
the actual base of the switch is blue. The first true bypass switches has a
black base with 12-pins, and we have experienced more failures with those
than the new ones. However, if a switch breaks, new or old, we usually send
a new free of charge, so thats a minor concern.

Regards,

Ralf, Brand Support
/EBS Sweden AB"

[Jammin'ForJesus]

That first paragraph doesn't make much sense to me..