Who uses a parametric equiliser?

tolley1466 · #1 01-01-2008, 04:51 AM

I've just bought one for my studio, and im just wondering if anyone uses one for their bass?

Cheers.

KsToaDangr · #2 01-01-2008, 07:18 AM

My amp has a parametric EQ included on it, but normally I use a 10 band graphic EQ pedal and just dial my amp EQ flat. Just personal preference, but I like the tone I get out of my graphic EQ better than the parametric EQ on my amp.

Pearldiver · #3 01-01-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KsToaDangr

My amp has a parametric EQ included on it, but normally I use a 10 band graphic EQ pedal and just dial my amp EQ flat. Just personal preference, but I like the tone I get out of my graphic EQ better than the parametric EQ on my amp.

+!

Used to run the parametric EQ on my TKO 75 flat and do whatever eq adjusting on my bass to fit the room.

Recently got a GEB-07 though.

It's quite the pedal. Can't wait to use it live.

Zooberwerx · #4 01-01-2008, 07:34 AM

I've found that if you're using decent quality gear, there's no need for extensive EQing. However, I do use the 2 band para EQ on my preamp to remove unwanted bumps (mud, room resonance, etc.). IMO, this has a profound effect when establishing a sonic footprint on stage or in the studio. FTR, I always subtract, never add.

Riis

Silent Fly · #5 01-01-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx

(...) FTR, I always subtract, never add.

Riis

+1

tbone409 · #6 01-01-2008, 08:49 AM

+11
it irks me when i see kid guitarists with everything boosted 'to 11' that was spinal tap, learn to use the d@mn eq it's there for a reason!
sorry pet peave
my amp (and the new sansamp in the mail) both have parametric mids, i really like that function which is why i purchased a Sansamp Acoustic DI over the BDDI

bongomania · #7 01-01-2008, 09:57 AM

I use a Speck ASC-T para EQ, just for correcting my signal's relationship to the room and my speaker cabs, not for "tone shaping". I also subtract rather than add, usually.

Bassist30 · #8 01-01-2008, 10:15 AM

I use a TC Electronic 1140 and I love it. Im not saying graphic is better or visa versa. They both do a great job. Using a Parametric is not easy at first. Many amps have what they call a semi parametric. By that you can't adjust the band width. Which is a powerful tool when adjusting frequencies. That is the main thing that differs that from a graphic eq. With a parametric how wide or narrow a frequency you adjust makes a tremendous difference in sound. Both are great. That is if you use a 31 band graphic as a caparison. Like say a Urei 537. As a parametric you need at least a 4 bands. Some have 5 or higher. To say one is better than the other is subjective but i love them both. On bass i have used both. I have more success with the parametric but again thats me and I still think they are both equally great to have.
I have read alot from the previous posts. And I agree eq should not only be made for boosting.
And thats also true with your standard tone controls.

mozarwasagenius · #9 01-01-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx

I've found that if you're using decent quality gear, there's no need for extensive EQing. However, I do use the 2 band para EQ on my preamp to remove unwanted bumps (mud, room resonance, etc.). IMO, this has a profound effect when establishing a sonic footprint on stage or in the studio. FTR, I always subtract, never add.

Riis

I add and subtract - whatever it takes to get a good sound. The eq is usually used to eq for the room and tailor the mids for me. The key is small changes imho. I actually wish most eq pedals had a +/-6dB rather than +/-12 or 18dB range for that reason.

bassist4dalord · #10 01-01-2008, 10:28 AM

I have a Boss GEB-7 7-Band Parametric EG when playing at my church (Bass, EQ, DI, Board) and it works pretty well. I like to be felt a lot in the mix from the 18" Peavey sub we use, so I like a lot of headroom and the Boss definitley works perfectly. Not bad for $70! Also, my Behringer BXL450A has a 5-band EQ, so I do ot use the Boss on my amp, just in the PA.

bongomania · #11 01-01-2008, 10:32 AM

The GEB7 is graphic, not parametric.

mozarwasagenius · #12 01-01-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bassist4dalord

I have a Boss GEB-7 7-Band Parametric EG when playing at my church (Bass, EQ, DI, Board) and it works pretty well. I like to be felt a lot in the mix from the 18" Peavey sub we use, so I like a lot of headroom and the Boss definitley works perfectly. Not bad for $70! Also, my Behringer BXL450A has a 5-band EQ, so I do ot use the Boss on my amp, just in the PA.

I use the GEB-7 in the same situation. I love that pedal. I've never been happy with my Pbass tone live until I got that thing. It is dead quiet (unless you crank the highs) and the bypass tone is very good too (I actually prefer it driving a passive DI over driving a passive di directly - this is probably because it is a buffered bypass not true bypass. Whenever people argue true bypass is better I have this example to prove otherwise. If the buffer is designed right it can actually sound better in some situations)

The mxr 10band is worth a try too, but it is bigger and uses 18V.

DaBassman · #13 01-01-2008, 10:50 AM

May be some helpful info here:

http://www.ethanwiner.com/equalizers.html

tolley1466 · #14 01-01-2008, 11:01 AM

i dont need help, i was just wondering who used one and if they're commonly used.

thanks anyway =]

DaBassman · #15 01-01-2008, 11:33 AM

I use the Yamaha Nathan East PEQ.
(Maybe some of the other readers will enjoy that article.)
Cheers!!

Swift713 · #16 01-01-2008, 11:50 AM

I use the 12 band graphic on my Trace head to take some mid hump out of my 12" speaker and bolster the bass. A little cut, a little boost. The pickups and eq on the bass shape the tone for the most part.
I think my brain is too simple for a parametric.

theshadow2001 · #17 01-01-2008, 11:56 AM

I haven't seen a fully parametric that wasn't desgined for the studio and costs thousands and thousands.

seanm · #18 01-01-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mozarwasagenius

I actually prefer it driving a passive DI over driving a passive di directly - this is probably because it is a buffered bypass not true bypass. Whenever people argue true bypass is better I have this example to prove otherwise. If the buffer is designed right it can actually sound better in some situations.

That makes sense. Many passive DIs have fairly low input impedances. The GEB-7 would provide a high impedance to the passive bass and would provide a nice low impedance to the DI.

seanm · #19 01-01-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theshadow2001

I haven't seen a fully parametric that wasn't desgined for the studio and costs thousands and thousands.

The Yamaha PB-1 bass preamp. It has one band of *fully* parametric EQ and cost something like $400 new in the 80s.

bongomania · #20 01-01-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theshadow2001

I haven't seen a fully parametric that wasn't desgined for the studio and costs thousands and thousands.

I've seen literally dozens of fully parametric units that cost anywhere from $75 to $500. Even discounting semi-high-end (a few hundred $) units such as the Speck or Summit or TC Electronic, there are also loads of much, much cheaper units from Rane, Ashly, Symetrix, DOD, Roland, Kawai, Yamaha, Korg, and who knows how many other brands of budget studio gear, easily available on the used market. Parametrics used to be very, very common- the only reason you don't see them as much anymore in new production from "budget" brands is because the mass-consuming public doesn't understand how to use them, so they don't sell as well as the more obvious graphics and tone stacks.

Just look here: http://instruments.search-completed....2cequalizerQ29