wilson or rmc?

phatbass30 · #1 04-22-2008, 09:34 PM

i already did a search of these 2 wahs. i just needed some personal opinions from those who have the opportunity to use one of these wahs.

first of, with the wilson bass wah, there are vaious models to choose from. adjustable bass wah, bass q-wah, 12 possition bass wah and 12 possition vintage bass wah. so which one of these is a more like an all around sound? what i meant for that is, a wah that is flexible for all sorts of gig, from rock to funk.

then comes the rmc wahs. according to the site, rmc-1 is suitable for bass. but i saw some people here in tb that are GASING for rmc-3. like my question before, which model is all around?

and finally, which do you prefer, rmc or wilson?

any infos would be a great help since i'm planning to get one of these wahs very soon. thanks to all of you in advance!!!

Mark Olson · #2 04-22-2008, 09:50 PM

I'm getting a Wilson 12 position Bass Q Wah, it's in the mail and I think it might come tomorrow. I'll let you know what I think when I get a chance to plug it in.

I'm curious about the RMC1, but the RMC5 is the only Teese wah I have experience with. For what it's worth the RMC5 is great on guitar but if you want to keep your bottom with bass it's not for you. Has a little more bottom than a Dunlop guitar wah.

**TheMutt** · #3 04-22-2008, 10:26 PM

Hello!
The 12-positiob Q-Wah is an excellent choice! I got mine with the vintage specs (tropical fish caps and a custom blue LED, the tone man the tone!). I also asked for the internal trimpots on the exterior of the pedal. This thing is versatile!

phatbass30 · #4 04-22-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMutt

tropical fish caps

what does this caps differs from the stock? thanks for the infos by the way!

KarateKid25 · #5 04-22-2008, 11:10 PM

**TheMutt** · #6 04-22-2008, 11:51 PM

Tropical fish caps are yet another of those famous "vintage" capacitors, much like the Sprague orange drops. They have been used in guitars for the tone control, but are most known for their use in silicon Fuzz Faces, Sola Tonebenders, Vox wahs, and various other vintage pedals. Do you really need them? I'll let you decide for yourself.

phatbass30 · #7 04-23-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMutt

Tropical fish caps are yet another of those famous "vintage" capacitors, much like the Sprague orange drops. They have been used in guitars for the tone control, but are most known for their use in silicon Fuzz Faces, Sola Tonebenders, Vox wahs, and various other vintage pedals. Do you really need them? I'll let you decide for yourself.

last question man. what's the sound of this compared to the stock version? is it better? i'm very curious! thanks!

phatbass30 · #8 04-23-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Olson

I'm getting a Wilson 12 position Bass Q Wah, it's in the mail and I think it might come tomorrow. I'll let you know what I think when I get a chance to plug it in.

great! pls let me know what do you think about it when it comes. i'm planning to get a wah sometime next month. so i still have time to think which one. i could try the rmc-1 here, but i'm aiming at the rmc-3 or the 12 possition bass q-wah. oh, i sent you a pm regarding the auction.

**TheMutt** · #9 04-23-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by phatbass30

last question man. what's the sound of this compared to the stock version? is it better? i'm very curious! thanks!

I couldn't tell you exactly how it's different from the standard 12 position Q-Wah. But it sure sounds great! The range on this thing is amazing, and there are numerous sounds available. Best of all, since there are 12 different tone positions, this one works great post octaver. Also behaves great with od/dist/fuzz pre/post. I'll be writing a review on mine in the coming months.

Mark Olson · #10 04-23-2008, 12:31 AM

I'm going to try to do some soundclips for the Wilson wah when I get the chance, so everyone can hear for themselves. I responded to your PM.

Metropolis_488 · #11 04-23-2008, 11:46 AM

I have the Bass Q-wah and did a review of it in a Bass Shootout thread I wrote a few months ago. He didn't offer a 12 position bass wah at the time, but I can tell you that my Q-wah has more than enough in terms of adjustments. I will also comment that the Wilson was head and shoulders above every other wah I tried. I would say the Dunlop 105q was second, but a very distant second. It took me about an hour of playing with the internal trim pots (particularly the buffer gain - which I ended up just about maxing, counter clockwise if I recall). Once I was done....mmmm, I have not touched the adjustments since...it just reeks of vibe and tone...great pedal.

Mark Olson · #12 04-23-2008, 11:54 AM

I got the Wilson! It's great! I kind of wish the positions went even higher, but on the position I'm using putting the wah toe down through my fuzz can make it sing into feedback the way it should, so I can't complain. Not too trebly, though, just right. Can keep the bottom. Excellent for rock wah sounds. Can get some funky tones by leaving the wah in one position through an overdrive.

I suspect all of the Teese wahs are just as rock oriented. Are you going for a more rock or funk sound?

Mark Olson · #13 04-23-2008, 12:32 PM

Ok I did a few quick soundclips of the Wilson Wah that should give you and idea.

First clean:

http://media.putfile.com/Wilson1

Then with some overdrive (sorry about the mud, I should have rolled it over to the bridge pickup for this kind of playing):

http://media.putfile.com/Wilson2

And last with a little bit of fuzz:

http://media.putfile.com/Wilson3

I'd appreciate any opinions on these tones if anyone feels like chiming in!

Andy Will · #14 04-23-2008, 01:06 PM

Wow, sounds pretty cool. Think this might be a next purchase!

One suggestion for when demonstrating the pedals might be to (in this case) just play a few notes with the Wah off first, then play with it turned on to hear what kind of 'clean' tone you have initially, followed by how the Wah effects that tone. Would just give a clearer idea to people unfamiliar with your set-up.

All sound clips are greatly appreciated though however they are done, so thanks again for taking the time!

Mark Olson · #15 04-23-2008, 02:21 PM

It's just a Gibson SG Bass through an Ampeg V4BH and recorded with my laptop's microphone (pretty lousy). For the first two samples the pickups are both maxed and for the last one the I'm using just the bridge pickup (like I should have done for the second sample). I'm also using a Z. Vex Box of Rock and an Analogman Sun Face. I have posted a lot of samples so I suspect some people are familiar with my tone by now, but if you want to hear some clean tone I posted a sample here that's mostly clean:

http://media.putfile.com/LittleWing-17

That's just bridge pickup. As you'd expect, adding the mudbucker mostly just adds mud. I have two whole threads full of clips of the Box of Rock and I think I've done some Sun Face clips, too.

phatbass30 · #16 04-23-2008, 02:22 PM

hey mark, those are really cool sound clips! so how do you like the wilson? i'm aiming for maybe more on rock music usage but also can be funky too. so you think that it fits the job? is it noisy or do you noticed any hiss? i had a chance to play with rmc-2 today. honestly i don't use wah before so its kinda difficult for me at first. but i could say that the rmc-2 is also good for bass! nice sweet spot and keeps the bottom end. its also sounded really good with an overdrive and fuzz. but its very expensive! so my problem now is, should i get the wilson according to the clips i heard from you and their website (which is really cool! i mean both clips!) and its a bit cheaper than the rmc-2. or should i get the rmc-2 which is more expensive but i already tested. hmmm... can somebody tell me what should i do? lol!

Mark Olson · #17 04-23-2008, 03:16 PM

I'll bring the Wilson to a gig this weekend and see how I like it in a band situation. I think either the Wilson or a Teese wah would be great for rock sounds, but might fall short where funk is concerned. Something like a Dunlop 105Q is oriented better towards funk sounds I think. I didn't notice any problems with noise with the Wilson but I've only gotten to play on it a little bit.

The Wilson is a little harder for me to get the sweet sound out of than the Teese wah I tried. Maybe you can tell from my clips but I'm not using the full sweep of the pedal. The Teese was a more cutting sound, great for solos and fills and stuff when you want to CUT, while I suspect the Wilson would fit better in a band mix for hammering out basslines. As it's a bass specific wah I think it sweeps a lower range of frequencies, even at the highest position. I got very usable sounds (at least I think they are) out of both of the wahs, so I think it really depends on what you think will fit your needs better.

Metropolis_488 · #18 04-23-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Olson

Ok I did a few quick soundclips of the Wilson Wah that should give you and idea.

First clean:

http://media.putfile.com/Wilson1

Then with some overdrive (sorry about the mud, I should have rolled it over to the bridge pickup for this kind of playing):

http://media.putfile.com/Wilson2

And last with a little bit of fuzz:

http://media.putfile.com/Wilson3

I'd appreciate any opinions on these tones if anyone feels like chiming in!

Wow...the way I have mine set up sounds MUCH different. Because I have the buffer output cranked, I actually get just a touch of breakup, which sounds like a monster growl.

As for funk, what kind of funk do you want? If you want '60 and '70 finger funk that is a bit dirtier than late '70's funk, the Wilson is great. If you want very clean and quacky sounding funk, then the Dunlop 105q is more your style - but that pedal has it's own set of problems, in my opinion.

Mark Olson · #19 04-23-2008, 03:53 PM

I also think I'm using a position that isn't on the 6 position Bass Q Wah.

Mark Olson · #20 04-23-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Metropolis_488

Wow...the way I have mine set up sounds MUCH different. Because I have the buffer output cranked, I actually get just a touch of breakup, which sounds like a monster growl.

Wait, you do realize I'm using a separate dirtbox and fuzzbox (respectively) for those samples, right?