Zoom B3 multi-effects

[Grateful]

Originally Posted by Diaos

I asked before but, does anyone know what pedal they were emulating with the dual compression? It resembles the Digitech Bass Squeeze in the knob display, though it has little hammers for decorations which makes me think it might be something else. Anyone know?

Originally Posted by autodidact

I don't think its modeled after a single pedal. Pretty sure its just called dual comp because the patch includes two compressors.

Yep. Usually they will list that an effect is 'in the style of' a certain pedal.

The Dual Comp just says: 004 DualComp This is a compressor which allows separate settings for the low frequency and high frequency range.

[justbark]

Originally Posted by drpepper

My B3 should be here tomorrow. I notice the Mac versions listed for Edit&Share go up to 10.7.

I made the unfortunate mistake of upgrading to Mountain Loin. Does Edit&Share work with 10.8?

I haven't had any problems with the latest version "Edit&Share Version 5.0.0.0 for Macintosh" on Mountain Lion. My system is a humble Core 2 Duo iMac circa 2009.

[sleekbass]

Originally Posted by autodidact

A marketing guy made a mistake with the comment on the video obviously. It is advertised as being able to run 3 effects simultaneously, not 6. Just because other units can run 6 effects doesn't automatically entitle us to them. Yes, I'd like the extra features but to start liking the company less because of something that they've never even said they were going to do? That's absurd.

The B3 is a good unit, Hartke gear is great, customer service is always top notch and a lot of people are quite satisfied. if you want 6 effects then buy 2. Don't wanna buy 2? Then wait for a POSSIBLE update but for goodness sakes relax, I'm tired of the whining that comes into this thread every few days.

/rant

wOW! VERY WELL SAID! ... I have the Line 6 M9 and am strongly considering trading it at GC for the ZOOM B3!!

[Grateful]

Originally Posted by sleekbass

wOW! VERY WELL SAID! ... I have the Line 6 M9 and am strongly considering trading it at GC for the ZOOM B3!!

I dumped my M9 for the B3 and it was a great decision.

THe B3 is IMNHO far easier to use and much more bass appropriate.

[meatwad]

Hmmm, as for the B3 running six fx at once, that's an update I wouldn't be interested in.

I'd prefer for it's processing power to be dedicated to just three fx, instead. Plus, it's interface is designed to be like three stompboxes at a time. Why mess up a good thing?

[drpepper]

Originally Posted by justbark

I haven't had any problems with the latest version "Edit&Share Version 5.0.0.0 for Macintosh" on Mountain Lion. My system is a humble Core 2 Duo iMac circa 2009.

Thanks. I got it on Friday, as expected, and had not trouble with Edit&Share. I did have an issue with the Sequel LE E-Licenser. I downloaded that from Steinberg and it worked, so I'm good to go

[OzzyGreg]

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I'd prefer for it's processing power to be dedicated to just three fx, instead. Plus, it's interface is designed to be like three stompboxes at a time. Why mess up a good thing?

Yeah, fair call, but even with six there are still just three displayed as per the G3.
Those users who only wanted to use three effects in a patch could just use those three on display in front of them.
Those wanting more would just have to press the centre and right buttons to pan up to effects 4,5 and 6 ..... or the centre and left buttons to pan back down to 1,2 and 3.
Once again, this is how the G3 works.

I have a G3 as well as a B3 and it's only certain amp sims (not all btw) that seem to overload the processor in the G3 when used with 5 other effects simultaneously.

My two cents.

Greg

[meatwad]

Originally Posted by OzzyGreg

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Yeah, fair call, but even with six there are still just three displayed as per the G3.
Those users who only wanted to use three effects in a patch could just use those three on display in front of them.
Those wanting more would just have to press the centre and right buttons to pan up to effects 4,5 and 6 ..... or the centre and left buttons to pan back down to 1,2 and 3.
Once again, this is how the G3 works.

I have a G3 as well as a B3 and it's only certain amp sims (not all btw) that seem to overload the processor in the G3 when used with 5 other effects simultaneously.

My two cents.

Greg

I've been under the impression that the processor is already split three ways, regardless if only one effect is on, or all three slots are being used. And, that certain combinations of amp sims can overload the B3's processor like it is. Therefore, I may have falsely assumed it would be dedicated to a six way split if such an update came to be. I am mainly concerned of extra noise, or any other kind of sacrifice in sound for twice the fx slots..

But, I do like the way you described the interface. I'll check YouTube for demos.

[OzzyGreg]

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I am mainly concerned of extra noise, or any other kind of sacrifice in sound for twice the fx slots..

To be honest I haven't spent a great deal of time with the G3, but so far I haven't noticed any extra noise or sacrifice in sound when using six effects at once in a patch.

Though mind you, just like with the B3 some of the effects are noisier than others, but nothing that the ZNR noise gate near the end of the chain won't fix.

Greg

[Jason Hall]

After being on a mad fuzz quest for many months, I decided to say screw it and play with the fuzz in my b3. As most know getting good gain out of a multi is an almost impossible task.. have to admit though I was getting some great heaviness out of it. Ran the squeeler with gain maxed and tone around 40 and a 50/50 mix into the exciter and was getting some thundering heaviness. Going to play with it some more at practice tonight with the drummer but think I might just forget the pedal search and tweak it some more... if it sounds good who cares.

[OzzyGreg]

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Going to play with it some more at practice tonight with the drummer but think I might just forget the pedal search and tweak it some more... if it sounds good who cares.

I had to put all my pedal snobbiness aside and ignore any pre-conceived ideas I had about multis when I was buying my B3.
I've never looked back...... an I can't see myself ever needing/wanting to buy an individual effect pedal again.

Greg

[CharlieC]

Amplifier Simulation Demos

I created a web page that will give you the opportunity to hear the Zoom B3's amplifier simulations without any other effects getting in the way.

http://www.zinfanus.com/zoom_b3

Cheers!

[meatwad]

Originally Posted by jasohall

I might just forget the pedal search and tweak it some more... if it sounds good who cares.

My thoughts exactly. I have found the best OD to date within the B3, using the effect simply named "Overdrive". It's received compliments from anybody who's heard it, and my band for tomorrow's gig even implemented a song into the set that lets me kick it in for a few bars...

So yeah, I have no GAS for other pedals either.

[OzzyGreg]

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I created a web page that will give you the opportunity to hear the Zoom B3's amplifier simulations without any other effects getting in the way.

http://www.zinfanus.com/zoom_b3

Cheers!

Thanks Charlie!

(Please check your PM inbox.)

Greg

[bebertq]

Would the Zoom B3 be considered an overall "good" upgrade coming from the POD X3, sound-wise? I'm using that for bass right now and I find it somewhat complicated to operate, even with the Gearbox software.

I think i'm more of a traditional guy that prefers playing with knobs...

[CharlieC]

Originally Posted by bebertq

Would the Zoom B3 be considered an overall "good" upgrade coming from the POD X3, sound-wise? I'm using that for bass right now and I find it somewhat complicated to operate, even with the Gearbox software.

I think i'm more of a traditional guy that prefers playing with knobs...

The POD X3 is a very great box, but I will take the B3 for the win!

Cheers!

[pan1k]

Originally Posted by CharlieC

The POD X3 is a very great box, but I will take the B3 for the win!

Cheers!

It's pretty legit. I love mine. I haven't even really gotten to deep into all the parameters. It won't replace having the actual pedals / amps that they model but it certainly comes close. And frankly the only thing that bugs me is the tuner thing. Other than that its awesome... And it comes in red. Makes for a good practice tool too. I like to turn on a drum best, loop a rhythm bass line then solo over that.'oodles for fun for hours.

[meatwad]

Originally Posted by pan1k

It's pretty legit. I love mine. I haven't even really gotten to deep into all the parameters. It won't replace having the actual pedals / amps that they model but it certainly comes close. And frankly the only thing that bugs me is the tuner thing. Other than that its awesome... And it comes in red. Makes for a good practice tool too. I like to turn on a drum best, loop a rhythm bass line then solo over that.'oodles for fun for hours.

My B3 hasn't replaced my Punch Factory when it's on the pedalboard, even though it simulates one very well. I also still use my Boss TU-2 for tuning, because it's at the very end of the chain, and doubles as an overall mute.

But, I have no problem removing it from my pedalboard and using it as a standalone unit, since all this stuff is built in to it. This probably won't happen a lot though, since a BCB-60 is pretty darned compact and easy to handle, has my wireless receiver mounted on it, and wah pedal.

I had one of the other bassists at the show picking my brain about my rig and tone, but mainly about my "dirt". He used a newer version non-bass Big Muff, that I thought sounded great, but he was much more interested in my overdrive sound. I may have sold another B3 for Zoom..

[captaincow101]

I've just traded my X3 for a nice new B3. I liked the X3 a lot, but it was pretty difficult to squeeze it into my hand-luggage!!!
I havn't had a proper play with it yet.
I really loved the 'Gearbox' interface that came with the X3, it obviously made programming sounds, really easy.
So I'm wondering if the B3 comes with anything similar? or do I have to keep crouching down to alter anything.
I've installed the recording software that came with it, but this is just a normal recording prog, not what I'm looking for.
So to be clear, I want to be able to see/alter my effects on my desktop, as per X3's Gearbox' type thing.
Any clue's chaps?
Thank you

[OzzyGreg]

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So to be clear, I want to be able to see/alter my effects on my desktop, as per X3's Gearbox' type thing.

Download Zoom's "Edit & Share" software.
It does exactly what you are describing.

Greg