Zoom B3 multi-effects

[Swift713]

For set up I'd use something with a pretty flat response like headphones, studio monitors, etc rather than your bass amp if you're not going to use the bass amp for performance.

[CharlieC]

Originally Posted by Mike M.

I understand what you're saying and you're right.

But as far as initially setting up the tones at home to use at church....that's where I'm not sure by which means would give me the best results.

For that I suggest from your bass, to the B3, to a set of headphones from the B3 (to best simulate the future IEM tone, unless you have access to the actual IEMs at home for that)

[Mike M.]

Okay, so if I got one I'd set it up the tones (amps, cab's, settings) with headphones. I guess that makes sense.

It would be nice going into church with somewhat of an idea of what I'd like to hear that's coming out of the PA rather than going at it totally blind and guessing!

Thanks for your time.

[Seathal]

Originally Posted by OzzyGreg

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Seathal,
Definately the B3.
At least you can be sure that the effects are bass-focused. Sure the effects are named the same between the two units, but you never know.

If I linked the two together it would be to untilize the generic stuff like reverbs/delays etc. of the G3 while using the B3 for the bass effects I wanted.

I've never gotten around to A-B'ing all of the B3's effects against the G3's to see if my ears can tell any difference, but to be safe I'd buy the B3.

Greg

Splendid, that's what I wanted to know from somebody who has both. For its price, it's not a tremendous effort to buy a second unit if I ever feel like I need one. I plan to use reverb-delay, choruses and maybe a polyoctaver or some crunch effect for different textures.

Have you (or anyone) tried to use the Z-Organ and Synths to make an approach to a POG-like sound? (I don't mean replicate or substitute the POG sound, but creating some similar swelling effect with reverb and delay. For ambiental and post-rock music.

[OzzyGreg]

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Have you (or anyone) tried to use the Z-Organ and Synths to make an approach to a POG-like sound?

No, I haven't personally, sorry. Synth sounds aren't my thing.

[ruins]

Originally Posted by Seathal

Have you (or anyone) tried to use the Z-Organ and Synths to make an approach to a POG-like sound? (I don't mean replicate or substitute the POG sound, but creating some similar swelling effect with reverb and delay. For ambiental and post-rock music.

yes.
i experiment all the time some but i almost never got to record anything to share

i simply find some cool patch, or tweak some, and then go to looper i end up with a free improvisation that lasts up to 10 min long.

i can only recommend this pedal.

if you are in to experimental stuff and synth you should get your self the expression pedal for it too, it unlocks so much more to experiment with.

[Emibass]

Soo, I finally have my B3.

I only fiddle with it a couple of hours so I don´t know much about it yet. I found it easy to set it and that´s a big big plus for me as I don´t like pedals.

Comps. Are nice, not as nice as the hardware (but that´s impossible) but very usefull.

Amps&cabs. Indeed I like what they do if you want a certain colour for recording specially. I´ll use them a lot.

Delays and reverbs are great. Does what I want them to do and I really like the early reflection one (don´t know how it´s called right now)

Choruses are fine too, though I have to fiddle more with them as I like to set it myself.

Flangers & Phasers. Not saying they aren´t good but in general are not my thing.

Distortion, Fuzz..etc. Not my thing either.

Ensamble. Really great stuff. I love what´s doing when play chords.

Loop recorder. I have to fiddle with it more.

Drums. Good easy paterns to rehears. I wish it had more type of sounds. Are a little too compressed.

Tuner and mute with tuner. Great stuff. I really like the mute botton.

This mornign I installed the Edit&Share software and it´s so easy to set up. That´s a great plus too.

I love the idea of recording the effected stereo signal and the dry signal trough its DI at the same time. I will use this thing a lot.

In general I really like it but I have a lot to learn and fiddle with it more.

The Ant´s preset is great for chordal work. And the M.Miller really reminde me of his tone. Great stuff.

[BottomThumper]

Hey B3 denizens, I'm hoping somebody has got this one figured out: What's the best way to run this box with a wireless set-up? I was planning on using the fx loop but I saw that was problematic for folks with various amps. I'm using an Eden Metro combo, Sennheiser 172G3.

[Emibass]

I also noticed noise with amps, it stops when note is muted. It´s like having a noise gate.

I know that real amps do have noise but I want to know if you have the same issue with your B3.

Thanks!

[Emibass]

Originally Posted by BottomThumper

Hey B3 denizens, I'm hoping somebody has got this one figured out: What's the best way to run this box with a wireless set-up? I was planning on using the fx loop but I saw that was problematic for folks with various amps. I'm using an Eden Metro combo, Sennheiser 172G3.

I´d go:
Bass - wireless - Zoom B3 - Amp

[Bradass]

Originally Posted by gastric

I'm not immediately aware of any multi-screen multi-effect box that will show blank / empty slots for a patch. They always show some effect block there, simply bypassed.

Well, you can delete a whole patch in Edit&Share, and leave that patch spot blank, which shows 3 blank pedal spots, effectively bypassing the pedal without any effects shown. As soon as you want to add a single pedal in, though, it fills the other 2 blank spots (I think with the opti-comp pedal...). So yeah, you can have blank effects, but it's an all or nothing sort of thing.

[gjbassist]

Originally Posted by Emibass

I also noticed noise with amps, it stops when note is muted. It´s like having a noise gate.

I know that real amps do have noise but I want to know if you have the same issue with your B3.

Thanks!

Yes I have noise with certain amp sims and certain effects but that is to be expected. The amps/effects being emulated typically have that same amount of noise as well.

[Seathal]

Originally Posted by ruins

yes.
i experiment all the time some but i almost never got to record anything to share

i simply find some cool patch, or tweak some, and then go to looper i end up with a free improvisation that lasts up to 10 min long.

i can only recommend this pedal.

if you are in to experimental stuff and synth you should get your self the expression pedal for it too, it unlocks so much more to experiment with.

Thanks! That's precisely what I want to do. Experiment. Thank you and Ozzy for all the input

[oerk]

Originally Posted by Emibass

I´d go:
Bass - wireless - Zoom B3 - Amp

Yep. Into the instrument input of the amp.

If you would like to bypass the amp's preamp, you can use the effect return. You'll have to adjust the Global level on the B3, and it will not work with every amp, because effect loop levels are apparently not standardized.

[Emibass]

This morning I had more time to fiddle with the B3 and I dig it more and more.

With the jazz, the SVT sound incredibly good. While some of you here said that the synths doesn´t sound that good, well the z-synth sounded very good with the jazz but sounded awfull with my L2500. Maybe it has to do with the thing that the jazz has flats on it....don´t know.

The looper is a wonderfull device, man I could do a whole little song and even recorded into the Cubase LE I have installed onto my mac.

[jzbass6]

How are the chorus and flanger in the Zoom B3?, do they allow you to adjust the bass coloration like the Boss CEB3 bass chorus or the MXR M83?

[Emibass]

Originally Posted by jzbass6

How are the chorus and flanger in the Zoom B3?, do they allow you to adjust the bass coloration like the Boss CEB3 bass chorus or the MXR M83?

The choruses are great, IMHO, and the ensamble one is even greater for me when I play chords. Some do have a tone control so maybe that´s for coloration...

Flangers are not my thing in general so I´ll let someone else to chime in.

[gastric]

I partial to the detune effect personally. Sounds great with lots of control.

[jzbass6]

Originally Posted by Emibass

The choruses are great, IMHO, and the ensamble one is even greater for me when I play chords. Some do have a tone control so maybe that´s for coloration...

Flangers are not my thing in general so I´ll let someone else to chime in.

I'm trying to decide whether I should go with the MXR M83 so I can control the chorus effect on the low end or spend $40 extra bucks on the B3 and get that option plus a few other things I've been gassing for like reverb, amp modeling and looping.

[Emibass]

Originally Posted by jzbass6

I'm trying to decide whether I should go with the MXR M83 so I can control the chorus effect on the low end or spend $40 extra bucks on the B3 and get that option plus a few other things I've been gassing for like reverb, amp modeling and looping.

well, you can use the first slot for an eq and then the second for the chorus. This way you can controlo the low end of the chorus.