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06-07-2010, 01:56 PM
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I'm currently looking for a fuzz pedal and based purely on the ZVex demo video (which is a bit too brief on bass) and the more extensive video from BassFuzz.com, I think the ZVex Wooly Mammoth is the pedal that most closely matches the fuzz tone I hear in my head.
That said, I use fuzz pretty minimally in my various projects and as such can't really justify the rather steep price tag of a new Wooly Mammoth. I'd gladly buy used, but these don't seem to come up very often here on TB.
With those things in mind, are there any lower cost alternatives that get in the same tonal ballpark as the ZVex Wooly Mammoth?
What about clones? Is anyone building a solid Wooly Mammoth clone at a lower price?
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06-07-2010, 02:14 PM
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Builder Moose23 Electronics | | | | You could get a Zvex Mastotron, I'm sure someone here could build you a clone either. http://zvex.com/mastotron.html |
06-07-2010, 02:20 PM
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06-07-2010, 02:28 PM
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What about alternatives? Are there any pedals that come close to the WM vibe? I tried the Mastotron and it seemed quite a bit different than the WM.
Is the WM based on an older circuit? For example, it seems like a lot of pedals are based on a Fuzz Face circuit. Does the WM have a predecessor circuit?
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06-07-2010, 02:29 PM
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06-07-2010, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by silky smoove  I'm a little shaky on going the clone route as it seems a bit unethical given that this is a pedal currently in production. | It's merely an unpatentable, derivative tweak on previous work. The circuit is in the public domain. It belongs to everyone to do with as they wish, hopefully with the result that it's eventually available to more people at a better price. That's the intention and the beauty of US patent law.
End of story.
Considering Zvex's prices for what's in the little project box, I would hardly think "ethics" is an issue for them. 
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06-07-2010, 05:57 PM
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Builder Moose23 Electronics | | | | | What he said. |
06-07-2010, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ebennetts Hairy Elephant is a popular clone of a Mammoth | Where can you get them from?
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06-07-2010, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by silky smoove Is the WM based on an older circuit? For example, it seems like a lot of pedals are based on a Fuzz Face circuit. Does the WM have a predecessor circuit? | I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that its (VERY!) loosely based on the Fuzz Face. It doesn't sound much like the FF though, so if that's even true I guess it doesn't help you much
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06-07-2010, 06:22 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | The WM is most definitely a slightly tweaked Fuzz Face. It just replaces some resistors with pots and adds a simple tone control on the end. |
06-07-2010, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Taylor Livingston The WM is most definitely a slightly tweaked Fuzz Face. It just replaces some resistors with pots and adds a simple tone control on the end. | You make it sound so simple! On a scale of 1-10, how easy would it be for a complete pedal-building n00b to put together?
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06-07-2010, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Happynoj You make it sound so simple! On a scale of 1-10, how easy would it be for a complete pedal-building n00b to put together? | Gut shot, not mine. 
Schem: http://analogguru.100free.com/193/sc...llyMammoth.gif
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06-07-2010, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DerHoggz | That schematic is like another language to me, but thanks! 
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06-07-2010, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DerHoggz | This photo (???) is not showing up for me.
To the OP,...I lurked your profile and couldn't tell if you were running active or passive basses. The WM is not known to be active friendly.
I've never owned or messed with a WM and I'm not sure if they are similar sounding fuzzes but if it's that pinched/saw wave synth style fuzz sound you are looking for the OLC Chunky Cheese might be worth a look.
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06-07-2010, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Happynoj That schematic is like another language to me, but thanks! | How familiar are you with electronics? |
06-07-2010, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DerHoggz How familiar are you with electronics? | I know how to plug something into the wall and turn it on.
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06-07-2010, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bongolation It's merely an unpatentable, derivative tweak on previous work. The circuit is in the public domain. It belongs to everyone to do with as they wish, hopefully with the result that it's eventually available to more people at a better price. That's the intention and the beauty of US patent law.
End of story.
Considering Zvex's prices for what's in the little project box, I would hardly think "ethics" is an issue for them. | +1!
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06-07-2010, 08:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Miami,FL | | | My Zvex WM sounded nothing like the Video. Got rid of it quick and got a Musket. So happy with it.
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06-07-2010, 08:34 PM
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