zvex wooly mammoth and fuzz factory

roflol · #1 09-15-2008, 12:26 PM

realllly expensive fuzz face clones, am i the only one who thinks that zvex as a whole don't live up to the hype and prices and think its immoral to charge £200 for a fuzz face clone? on a side note i never thought that pogs would actually track THAT good

B.C. · #2 09-15-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by roflol

realllly expensive fuzz face clones, am i the only one who thinks that zvex as a whole don't live up to the hype and prices and think its immoral to charge £200 for a fuzz face clone? on a side note i never thought that pogs would actually track THAT good

Immoral? No, that IMHO is the beauty of the free market. Zach Vex, whether you like him or not, makes unique products, and because of that, he is able to make money. Everybody has their own opinion though.

Just so you know, you might want to tread softly as this may be a restricted topic(having a thread to openly criticize a manufacturer.)

Cheers.

rratajski · #3 09-15-2008, 01:06 PM

I understand what you're saying roflol, but take not that you're paying for a well-made pedal, small enclosure, a ridiculous paint job, high quality switches (ZVex uses custom-made switches) and other parts, a guarantee of the quality of your purchase, the people who work on the pedal, and the name. The distributors do the markup after they buy from ZVex, too, so it's not just ZVex.

I can't afford one of his pedals, but if I could, the Super Duper 2-in-1 would be on my jawnz.

bongomania · #4 09-15-2008, 01:16 PM

Also, FWIW his prices have been discussed ad nauseum throughout the effects pedals world, including on Zack's own forum, and the bottom line is that (a) he can charge whatever he wants and the market will bear it or not, and (b) it really is that expensive to run that business as a full-time career at such high quality levels. Therefore it is not at all immoral, and in fact the only thing wrong with his prices is the whining from people who want his pedals but can't afford them. It's just like the incessant whining about prices of Rickenbackers and Foderas- boo effing hoo.

nad · #5 09-15-2008, 01:38 PM

If people stopped buying his pedals then yes, they are too expensive. Even if that did happen, it still wouldn't be immoral.

totalimmortal08 · #6 09-15-2008, 01:47 PM

they are high quality pedals and have unique features that are not on many pedals at all. while i do not personally own any zvex pedals and probably won't buy one cause it is not what i am looking for, i do agree he should charge whatever he wants. if you think you can up one him, by all means, go for it.

Joe Gress · #7 09-15-2008, 02:01 PM

Quick ot question: is the fuzz factory gated like the wooly mammoth?

rcubed · #8 09-15-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joeinsprings

Quick ot question: is the fuzz factory gated like the wooly mammoth?

It can get very gated.

dubsymmetry · #9 09-15-2008, 02:08 PM

fuzz face clone - that´s what it has started as (zvex told so in an interview), but the final product that the fuzz factory is, is something entirely different... the woolly mammoth isn´t his design, btw.

he can charge whatever he wants to, if it´s worth to YOU only you can decide. but please, if you decide it´s not worth it, don´t go bashing the company.

RickenBoogie · #10 09-15-2008, 05:53 PM

Imo, the Fuzz Factory is unlike any fuzz pedal I've ever heard, and it has alot of tweakability. Greatness.

JoshC · #11 09-15-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

Imo, the Fuzz Factory is unlike any fuzz pedal I've ever heard, and it has alot of tweakability. Greatness.

How well did you think it got along with bass?

irvinz · #12 09-15-2008, 06:28 PM

no low end would be you answer joshC

mikeboth · #13 09-15-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by roflol

am i the only one who thinks that zvex as a whole don't live up to the hype and prices and think its immoral to charge £200 for a fuzz face clone?

For all those three questions, yes - you could well be the only one who thinks that.

Unlike other people who recycle tube-screamer-based designs ad-nauseam, ZVex actually offers some originality and his stuff sounds good (IMHO, of course).

rcubed · #14 09-15-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by irvinz

no low end would be you answer joshC

Maybe when I get around to getting one I'll tweak it so it doesn't lose the fundamental/low-end. Either a blend knob or a RC filter change should do the trick.

B.C. · #15 09-15-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed

Maybe when I get around to getting one I'll tweak it so it doesn't lose the fundamental/low-end. Either a blend knob or a RC filter change should do the trick.

Or you could use an RCL method as well. I'm doing that when I get the Mamrmoth as well so active basses will also work. Should allow for some more low end as well in the Fuzz Factory I believe.

rcubed · #16 09-15-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by B.C.

Or you could use an RCL method as well. I'm doing that when I get the Mamrmoth as well so active basses will also work. Should allow for some more low end as well in the Fuzz Factory I believe.

Let us know how that goes. I was referring to FF by the way. I liked the WM but not at the price the shop was asking for a USED one.

B.C. · #17 09-15-2008, 09:35 PM

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Let us know how that goes. I was referring to FF by the way. I liked the WM but not at the price the shop was asking for a USED one.

Yeah, I can't afford it either, but I will own both(I'm a guitar player as well.) Here is the circuit for the LCR for ya.

http://www.muzique.com/lab/pickups.htm

Choosing the right capacitor(I believe to ground) will improve bass responce.

TOOL460002 · #18 09-15-2008, 10:20 PM

i own the ringtone and tremorama- both of which are interesting pedals- very fun to play with. pretty graphics- excellent quality- small footprint (HUGE plus in my book)- and the 8 stage deal is pretty unique.

however- taking a step back- i realize i spent what id consider a lot of cash on 2 pedals i used a lot the first couple of weeks i had them- and then rarely once the novelty wore off. i cant say theyre not worth the money- because ive paid more for other pedals- and just happen to use those more than the zvex units.

i will say that for the price i find it absurd that the 9v boss adapter plate is an additional cost- and that IME- theyre a pain to find in stock. however- i will gladly shell out the cash once the ooh/seek wah tap tempo comes out- even if i turn around and sell it shortly thereafter. it just looks like a lot of fun. cant fault zvex on quality and originality.

Doolz · #19 09-16-2008, 04:48 AM

how's the ringtone at keeping your low end?

TOOL460002 · #20 09-16-2008, 07:04 AM

the ringtone is my first/only/probably last ring modulator- so i have no basis for comparison- but as far as low end loss- its definitely noticeable. how noticeable depends where you have the frequency set- some are better/worse than others. its also not very tweakable- which makes it a bit less bass friendly.

i found one really cool use for it- which was bass>eq>envelope>ringtone>envelope. sounds like youre playing through water. the settings on the 2nd envelope filter boost the bass up to where id like it- but i cant find a single use for the ringtone on its own.