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T-Mac 01-28-2013 03:44 PM

2 pole switch question
 
Hey folks,

I bought a 2 pole rotary switch for series parallel switching. It is a 6 position, but I only use the two, and the other 4 positions are "blank".

After confirming the lugs/pathways with a multimeter, I soldered the leads. Series and parallel positions sound fine and as expected, but....I'm still getting weak signal in the other positions!

I'm stumped as to why this is. I rechecked my wiring and everything looks "good". The bass has a 9 volt premap...not sure if that would play a factor of not. Can anyone shed some light onto what is going on?

Thanks!

line6man 01-28-2013 04:41 PM

How did you wire it?

SGD Lutherie 01-28-2013 04:43 PM

Why did you get a 6 position rotary switch?

You could have used a DPDT toggle switch, or even a push pull pot.

T-Mac 01-28-2013 08:44 PM



Red to A

White to B

Black to 1...out to preamp

Green to 7...out to ground

Jumper from 2 to 8

T-Mac 01-28-2013 08:46 PM

I used a 2 pole 6 position rotary because I couldn't find a 2 pole 2 position. I don't like the look of a toggle, and I do not care for push pulls.

Silly, but it is what it is.

JoeWPgh 01-28-2013 08:48 PM

Still, couldn't you get a 2 position twist switch?
Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Mac (Post 13793547)
I used a rotary because I don't like the look of a toggle, and I do not care for push pulls.

Silly, but it is what it is.


T-Mac 01-28-2013 09:26 PM

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Quote:

I used a 2 pole 6 position rotary because I couldn't find a 2 pole 2 position.

line6man 01-28-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Mac (Post 13793539)


Red to A

White to B

Black to 1...out to preamp

Green to 7...out to ground

Jumper from 2 to 8

What you did was leave an infinite impedance from the negative phase lead of one pickup to ground, while the hot was connected to the output. What you should have done was copy the series/parallel switching for the rest of the positions, so there wouldn't be any "open" positions. If you had more poles, you could mute the output in the unused positions, but you only have the two, so that is not an option.

JoeWPgh 01-28-2013 09:35 PM

You would use a DPDT rotary. There are a kabillion wiring diagrams on this that are all essentially the same. I'm sure you could find one at Mouser or Digikey

T-Mac 01-28-2013 10:04 PM

Thanks, line6man....I see now!

There shouldn't be any "problems" with the 2 first 2 positions though, yes?

walterw 01-28-2013 10:06 PM

mouser has the flipside of this, a 6-pole 2-position rotary!

works perfectly, and will flip up to three dual-coil pickups between series and parallel (it uses 2 poles per pickup).

SGD Lutherie 01-28-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Mac (Post 13793547)
I used a 2 pole 6 position rotary because I couldn't find a 2 pole 2 position..

Where did you look?

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...jbagXuHzV9c%3d

This one can be set from 2 to 6 positions.

Here's two more 2 position 2 pole rotary switches:

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....5-SR1712F-22NS

bassbenj 01-28-2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by line6man (Post 13793716)
What you did was leave an infinite impedance from the negative phase lead of one pickup to ground, while the hot was connected to the output. What you should have done was copy the series/parallel switching for the rest of the positions, so there wouldn't be any "open" positions. If you had more poles, you could mute the output in the unused positions, but you only have the two, so that is not an option.

It took a while to see what you did but now I do and lineman 6 is right. You can't really add "mute" without an extra set of terminals. Let me say however that a rotary is one of my standard setups which I usually wire: neck. both series, both parallel, bridge. But lately because I bought a switch with an extra position I added "mute" and I must say I really love the convenience of a mute position! I'd highly recommend doing it that way.

Say wait a minute! Why do your pickups have four different colored wires? And you aren't bothered by a switch with four positions that don't work at all, but ARE bothered by a toggle or push-pull control???!!! You wouldn't be one of them thar geetar players over here just pretending to play bass, would you? :)

T-Mac 01-29-2013 04:48 AM

bassbenj, a Nordstrand mm4.2 has two coils; black/white, red/green plus bare leads.

My preference against toggles or push pulls is irrelevant and not likely to change. I had a 6 position switch laying around (yes, really) so I used it. Simple as that.

SGD Lutherie, thanks for the links. Question though....would a shorting (MBB) switch be preferable?

Thanks!


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