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09-18-2012, 04:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | | 55 Pbass - single coil pup UPGRADE ? Since my CS 55 PBass is one of my favorite bass (look, feel, tone), I think I might want to 'upgrade' the original single coil pickup to a split coil (or anything hum free) to avoid the anoying hum.
What's the best replacement pickup in order to KEEP the original tone, but without the hum? Here's a 2 options : http://www.fralinpickups.com/bass.asp#51pbass http://www.seymourduncan.com/product...ngle_coilstac/
Is there any other options? | 
09-18-2012, 04:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Santa Cruz, CA | | | I have a Fralin split coil in my '68 Tele bass and absolutely love it. | 
09-18-2012, 05:06 PM
| | Registered User Funky Cold Medina | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orange County, California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by davidchampoux | I don't have an answer but I'm curious to read other's input.
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09-18-2012, 05:29 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | | $140 for a single pickup is not exactly cheap, so I wanna be sure I won't loose that tone I like so much from the 55... | 
09-18-2012, 05:37 PM
| | | | You try shielding the cavities yet?
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09-18-2012, 05:39 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | | no. Will that really make a difference?? | 
09-18-2012, 05:48 PM
| | Registered User Funky Cold Medina | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orange County, California | | | How about some pics of your bass?
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09-18-2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by davidchampoux no. Will that really make a difference?? | It should. Telecaster players do it all the time.
It doesn't hurt or cost much to install shielding (if you do it yourself), and it's a lot cheaper than a new pickup.
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09-18-2012, 06:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | Along with my 59...
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09-18-2012, 06:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Stilettoprefer It should. Telecaster players do it all the time.
It doesn't hurt or cost much to install shielding (if you do it yourself), and it's a lot cheaper than a new pickup. | Might try that first... What's the best material to do so? | 
09-18-2012, 06:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the Great Southwest | | You can use copper shielding, or conductive paint. Such as: http://www.guitarfetish.com/Copper-G...Kit_p_176.html Quote:
Originally Posted by davidchampoux Might try that first... What's the best material to do so? | | 
09-18-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by davidchampoux Might try that first... What's the best material to do so? | Copper foil. You can get cheaper stuff from a stained glass place or conductive glue type from StewMac. I'd say that if you use the conductive glue type still make connection between pieces with solder as the glue probably will dry out through the years. Remember all foil must be grounded (connected to jack body)
Note that shielding ONLY gets rid of the hum that "goes away when you touch ground". Hum that doesn't change when you touch ground is single coil hum and shielding will do nothing for that. However you may find a certain direction to stand that kills single coil hum!
Best solution to single coil hum is hum cancelling pickups. I put SCN in my Fender Jazz and love them. But I don't think you'll find ANY hum cancellers that are identical in tone to single coils. That's why people put up with the hum! I personally love Nordstrands the best, but they are $$$. So I went with SCNs which were considerably cheaper...though now apparently discontinued. | 
09-18-2012, 06:28 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bassbenj Note that shielding ONLY gets rid of the hum that "goes away when you touch ground". Hum that doesn't change when you touch ground is single coil hum and shielding will do nothing for that. However you may find a certain direction to stand that kills single coil hum!  | That is what I was refering to... So shielding won't help. I can find the quietest direction in the studio, no problem, but on live situation, it's sometimes impossible... Soundmen don't always like me! :P
Nordstrand don't make a pickup for the 51-57 PBass... | 
01-20-2013, 04:47 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | | Waiting for a Seymour Duncan stacked coil... Hope it'll fit in my Custom Shop 55..... | 
01-20-2013, 07:29 PM
|  | Yeah, I've been registered here awhile... ;-D | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ashland, MO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by basshag I have a Fralin split coil in my '68 Tele bass and absolutely love it. | +1 on Lindy's split-coil.
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01-20-2013, 07:40 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | | Some reviews said that the split Fralin is close to a regular split P pickup, and its not the tone I'm looking for... (With this bass anyway, already have a standard P).
I just want that single coil tone that I love, but without the noise... I hope the Duncan stacked will fit and give me that tone.
Btw, Fender is now shipping their new CS51 with that particular pickup... | 
01-20-2013, 08:26 PM
|  | Yeah, I've been registered here awhile... ;-D | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ashland, MO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by davidchampoux Some reviews said that the split Fralin is close to a regular split P pickup | Not to my ears. I compared the Fralin to Lollar's scp pickup. The Fralin delivered a little better response from the E, punchier mids, and a bit less high end response but it's still the sound of a single coil to me. I actually prefer the split precision tone myself. To each his own... 
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01-20-2013, 09:56 PM
| | Registered User Funky Cold Medina | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orange County, California | | | The stock CS pickup sounds great in mine--no need to change but if it ever dies it's good to know there are good replacements available.
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01-21-2013, 03:31 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Quebec City, Canada | | Received the Duncan Stacked pickup. It fitted perfectly in my CS 55 (though I had to remove the pickguard to install it).
There's NO noise at all with this pickup but I still prefer the tone of the original single coil...
Any one want this stacked pickup?  | 
01-21-2013, 05:28 PM
| | | | Was there a wire from your pickup to the pickup cover? if not install one and shield your bass my '68 Telecaster is very quiet.
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