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Old 04-06-2007, 12:23 PM
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Advantages and disadvantages between Spit coil, J style and hambucking.

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Hi, im a noob and just started playing in a band with only one guitarist. Could someone tell me the main sonic differences between the three different styles of pickups?
I know that J style ae really snappy with great definition and midrange but kinda lacky in the bottom end department, in the other hand, split coil or p Style offers a more warm and round tone but what is the diffeence against the hambucker's super boomy sound. Some people say that hambucking style pickups have huge low end but tend to get muddy. Im trying to get a sound that fills up A LOT of room but not too midrangy, Also Im planning to go clean, not overdrive or distortion.
Any suggestion?
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Old 04-06-2007, 02:39 PM
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1st off welcome TB and the bass world

get a P bass, they are actually humbuckers, but thay have a unique tone that sooooo many people forget about and always fall back on.

a P will fill any venue with bowel twitching effect given the right amp, you will always be felt and the bigger necks make you a better player.......even better get a singlecoil P bass (51 re issue or a clone of) they have the same P bass quality's but with a little less low mid bark but more zingy top (it does still sound like a P tho) leo got it SO RIGHT the 1st time.

a jazz style bass will give you more tonal range but can sound a little thin (especially if you have just started and dont know your gear and its secrets), sometimes struggling to be a solid ground in a 3 piece set up (tho john paul jones pulled it off nice)

and a stereotypical humbucker equipped bass (thunderbird, EB, MM and the likes) really depends on where the pickup is placed.
if its like a gibson bass and short scale with pickup at the neck then it will be muddy (lots of bottom not much else) yet if it is at the bridge and a regular scale like an earnie ball musicman then the sound will be bright and punchy. thunderbirds and explorers tend to combine the qualitys of both mentioned above but have a totally different tone.

in short.
a P will fill the room no matter what, given the right volume
a jazz will give you a brighter tone with more scope for wider tones
and humbuckers have a fat rich tone dependant on where the pickup is on the bass.

for reccomendations of the above on a budget

P. MIM fender P, a squire P, there are LOADS of P clones and most do the job fine (just dont buy too cheap)

J. MIM fender J, squire vintage modified jazz

humbuckers. OLP musicman, epiphone EB or rivioli, epi thunderbird.

check ebay for cheap knock offs (SX basses are cool and cheap) check the basses forum for tip offs as we are all cheap skates at heart and usually share good deals.

hope this helps
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Old 04-08-2007, 05:55 PM
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Hi, im a noob and just started playing in a band with only one guitarist. Could someone tell me the main sonic differences between the three different styles of pickups?
I know that J style ae really snappy with great definition and midrange but kinda lacky in the bottom end department, in the other hand, split coil or p Style offers a more warm and round tone but what is the diffeence against the hambucker's super boomy sound. Some people say that hambucking style pickups have huge low end but tend to get muddy. Im trying to get a sound that fills up A LOT of room but not too midrangy, Also Im planning to go clean, not overdrive or distortion.
Any suggestion?
FWIW:

the shape tells you more about whether it will fit in a given route then the tone. There are many other factors that affect tone. There's a good break down in FAQ on general differences in the pups. If you're new, you'll save yourself a lot of time by skimming through it. Most repetitive basic and common advanced questions are answered there.

You can have a J-shaped split coil humbucking pickup for starters - like the DM Model J - and a split P is a humbucking pickup, part of the genius behind Leo coming up with it.

There's plenty of low end in J's depending on the J you get. In terms of versatility, since there have been more J's made than any other shape by far, you have more tonal options with a J bass by swapping pups out.
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:15 AM
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Mmmmm... Hambucker on rye.
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