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View Poll Results: Which Aguilar preamp would you choose?
OBP-1 2 10.00%
OBP-2 7 35.00%
OBP-Carrots 11 55.00%
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:43 PM
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Alright guys,

I have been a firm believer that active preamps decrease your headroom and raise the noisefloor, and that passive basses are far superior. I still feel that way, however, i am starting to think that i could easily have both worlds on my bass using a proper active/passive switch and passive controls.

Here is the schematic that i came up with for myself:



The controls will be: volume-volume-passive tone-active bass/treble stacked pot.

There will be 3 push/pulls.
The first will be a power switch.
Usually the power to the preamp is switched on and off by inserting a mono cable into the jack, which shorts the ring terminal to the sleeve. I leave my bass plugged in 24/7, so I can't stand the idea of having to unplug my bass when i am not using it, so i will be putting in a power switch in addition to the output jack.
When the knob is down, the bass will function exactly the same as a regular active bass, turning on and off with the insertion of a cable. But when i pull the knob up, i can turn off the power, regardless of whether a cable is plugged in or not.
In addition, the switch will double as a killswitch so that i can mute the output of the bass when the power is off.

The second push/pull will be an active/passive switch. That's pretty much self explanatory.

The third push/pull will be the bypass switch for the passive tone control.
I have been using push/pull bypass switches on the tone controls of my basses for a while now, and i really like the functionality.

Anyways, i was initially interested in the Nordstrand preamp, but i found out that it is op-amp based, so it's definitely not the right preamp for me.
My second choice is Aguilar's preamps. I am happy with the fact that they are discrete field effect transistor based, and my luthier is a big fan of them, so it's down to a choice of either the OBP-1 or OBP-2.

I heard that the 4KHz treble center on the OBP-1 is much more musical and useful than the 6.5KHz treble center on the OBP-2. With that being said, i am not so sure that i like the boost-only thing...
I doubt that i would ever really need to cut bass, (My instrument isn't really all that bassy to begin with.) and it would make more sense to cut treble with a passive tone control than an active cut, but something about boost-only controls seems limiting to me.

I think i will probably end up going for the OBP-1, but i think it's best to consult the wisedom of TB before i do anything.

Those of you who have tried both preamps, which would you recommend?

Do you find the boost-only functionality of the OBP-1 to be limiting?

How do you like the treble frequency center on the OBP-2?

Is there anything i am missing/overlooking in my comparison of the two preamps?

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What is "carrots"? Please. Thanks.
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Old 06-27-2009, 04:53 PM
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What is "carrots"? Please. Thanks.
Surely you've taken a TalkBass poll before?
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:23 PM
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:12 AM
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Carrots are fake things?

I would like to try an OBP-1 myself. The boost only seems most appropriate to me.
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:36 PM
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I just installed a OBP-3 and I really like the 3 band EQ it is much nicer to compensate for things at the Bass than the rig in my opinion and if you are playing different basses on your rig you can leave the EQ settings alone and just adjust on the bass.
I will say that now I am getting alot of wierd interfierence when I plug this bass into my Shuttle 6.0 that I never got before ie:christian radio station at home in my office and a floresent light hum at work now but my Eden Navigator is nice and quiet.
So while I like the gains I have in sound they come with a price.
I voted for the OBP-2 because the OBP-1 needs 2 9volts if I am correct and it doesnt offer cut only boost for 2 the band EQ.
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Ithe OBP-1 needs 2 9volts if I am correct
FWIW, you can run the OBP-1 with only 1 9 volt battery...I've done this on a few basses with no problems.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:40 PM
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I just installed a OBP-3 and I really like the 3 band EQ it is much nicer to compensate for things at the Bass than the rig in my opinion and if you are playing different basses on your rig you can leave the EQ settings alone and just adjust on the bass.
I will say that now I am getting alot of wierd interfierence when I plug this bass into my Shuttle 6.0 that I never got before ie:christian radio station at home in my office and a floresent light hum at work now but my Eden Navigator is nice and quiet.
So while I like the gains I have in sound they come with a price.
I voted for the OBP-2 because the OBP-1 needs 2 9volts if I am correct and it doesnt offer cut only boost for 2 the band EQ.
That type of behavior should not be caused by a preamp.
That sounds more like a RFI/EMI/ground loop/etc.. type of problem.

Running two batteries is not an issue to me. Headroom is very important to me.
I was actually kind of interested in running the OBP-1 at 27V, because apparently you get 3.5dB more headroom that way. I don't know whether it will be noticeable or not, but i don't see any disadvantage to it other than more wood to route out of my bass to make room for an extra battery.

I'm assuming it was a typo, but what is "cut only boost"?
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:48 PM
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Well, i choose the OBP-1 preamp.
I placed my order with BestBassGear today.
As usual, Brian was extremely helpful, and i highly recommend him.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:55 PM
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Quickly, without fluff:

I don't like the 6.5kHz on the OBP-2. It's not my cup of tea.
Why would you need to cut with a passive tone control?
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:35 PM
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I think you made a good call. I prefer 2-band myself and 18V is sure nice. My experience with the OBP-1 is that it's really solid. Makes a great buffer with neither band boosted, but when you want to help yourself to some booty or some slice... watch out!! (Both bands are very potent yet musical IME.)

Also good call, keeping a passive tone knob. For the last couple of years, that's been my favorite thing to use for most situations. If had to use just one bass, I'd probably wire it up exactly the way you're doing.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:13 PM
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Upgraded wiring scheme with 3 way switch...

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i'm looking to put an aguilar obp3 in a squire deluxe jazz, which is the right model or the best configuration to get
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i'm looking to put an aguilar obp3 in a squire deluxe jazz, which is the right model or the best configuration to get
I did that and i used a vol-blend-stacked bass/treble-mid.

I used the switch to select active/passive.
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