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Old 01-20-2011, 08:08 AM
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Hi fellow Tb mates

I've searched the pickups forum but couldn't find anything about Alembic pickups and electronics. What is it with these pickups? I don't know how they sound en why they have their own sound. Do they use alnico's?
I want to know more, wich is a good same-sounding pickup?
and what about the electronics? what makes them sound? The are filters, but what are filters? something like emg(a active preamp in the pickups and a filter as control)?

Tell me everything you know!



Btw, I'll make another thread, I'm looking for an ,no pole pieces to be seen pickup, for a 4 string jp bass and a 5 string jpj bass. and I'm looking for nice jpj combinations.


geeessh so much questions!

thanks!
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bump for JPJ action
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:58 AM
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Alembic pickups use ceramic magnets. The Series I pickups were wound low impedance, which means they had less turns of a heavier gauge wire for a cleaner tone, but they have to nbe used with a preamp.

Their later pickups are stacked humbuckers. They seem to be wound a bit hotter (the ones I measured were 8K), but they still need a preamp to work because they are low output.

Alembics were the original "active" pickups.

Alembics have low pass filters (the first one) but not high pass filters.

The electronics use low pass filters for tone controls. As you turn the tone knob it sweeps the frequency where the high end is removed. They also have a "Q" switch or knob, which boosts the resonance at the cutoff frequency. This makes the tone sharper, kind of like a wah pedal.

Here's an audio example of a low pass and then high pass filter.

Low Pass-High Pass

Because the pickups are low impedance, the resonant frequency is higher than on regular high impedance pickups, so the filter allows you to get a lot of different tones by lower the resonant peak, which makes them sound more like passive pickups.

If you want to know what an Alembic bass sounds like, listen to Stanley Clarke.
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Yep, that's for sure the sound. Dang... makes me want an Alembic again just hearing that.
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The series electronics also are neck and bridge single coil with a dummy hum canceler in the middle (that's a pickup without pole pieces). So you get beautiful single coil sound without the single coil hum (since the dummy is out of phase). Also screwdriver accessible is a phase control for the pickups so you can rotate the field to be out of phase with the dummy if needed (electronic interference is not static <rimshot> so an adjustable phase allows you to kill hum/buzz in different environments)

The tone controls are a low pass filter system. Series I and Series II electronics are close in function but the Series II replaces the Q switch (3 position presets) with a knob so that you get more control than just the 3 Q presets in the Series I. Each pickup has it's own set of filtering controls and volume. Off/neck/both/bridge selector switch too.

There are also "signature" electronics which are like Series but no dummy hum canceler, single volume, pickup balance control and 2 position Q switch and Q control knob.

They also do (or used to do at least, not sure) A P/J combo with filters that could be used as a drop in replacement.

There have also been lots of other electronics packages that they've done over the years but the ones above are the usual ones. If you really want to see something then read about Jack Casady's bass with the built in Alembic superfilters.
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The "signature" pickups and electronics are the Series II, which are stacked humbuckers. They still make the Activator P and J pickups. Now they come with a 2 band preamp. They are quite expensive though; at about $1,000!
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The "signature" pickups and electronics are the Series II, which are stacked humbuckers. They still make the Activator P and J pickups. Now they come with a 2 band preamp. They are quite expensive though; at about $1,000!
Signature is different than Series and Series II is Series I with added master volume and knob adjustable Q instead of 3 position switch. I forgot about the Europa/Rogue electronics too. The normal Alembic electronics packages are...

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No Signature is different than Series and Series II is Series I with added master volume and knob adjustable Q instead of 3 position switch.
I was referring to the pickups, but I forgot the Series II uses the dummy coil and not the stacked pickups as found on all the other models you mentioned. I mentioned the variable Q knob earlier.earlier.
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I was referring to the pickups, but I forgot the Series II uses the dummy coil and not the stacked pickups as found on all the other models you mentioned. I mentioned the variable Q knob earlier.earlier.
Sorry my bad, I got confused; I didn't catch that before.
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