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01-07-2013, 01:54 PM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerwylie Correct. Hard to tell, is there anything else I can do to help with the noise? I don't see the bare wire at all coming into the cavity | You know, I'm wondering if he wired them up in single coil mode. That's what it sounds like if the noise is changing when you move your direction of the bass.
I'd go back to this guy and complain about the noise and ask what he did. The wiring job does not look that good to me
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01-07-2013, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie You know, I'm wondering if he wired them up in single coil mode. That's what it sounds like if the noise is changing when you move your direction of the bass.
I'd go back to this guy and complain about the noise and ask what he did. The wiring job does not look that good to me | Unfortunately, if he did it wrong the first time I wouldn't trust him to do it right the second time. There are no good techs in this area of the country for some reason. I have a soldering iron I should just try to figure it out myself I think.
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01-07-2013, 02:16 PM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerwylie Unfortunately, if he did it wrong the first time I wouldn't trust him to do it right the second time. There are no good techs in this area of the country for some reason. I have a soldering iron I should just try to figure it out myself I think. | It's easy. Drop me an email and I can talk you through it.
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01-07-2013, 03:15 PM
| | | Yeah I've very recently gone from zero wiring experience to----being reasonably comfortable. My soldering isn't pretty, but it sounds the same and nobody else will be looking in my electronics cavity >_>
I bought some cheap epiphone thunderbird pickups to screw around with and that helped a ton.
When I got my SGD's I wired them up and had no sound....turned out a wire had come loose. Not sure if I had just forgotten it, or if its solder had heated and it popped free.
Anyway, the point is that there is little chance of permanently screwing something up. Just pay close attention to each wire 
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01-07-2013, 07:09 PM
| | | | Sgd minibumbucker Hi Dave,
So the pickup didn't ship last week or the week before, any chance it will go out this week?
Regards,
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01-07-2013, 07:19 PM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Calexia13 Hi Dave,
So the pickup didn't ship last week or the week before, any chance it will go out this week?
Regards,
Ed | Yes indeed.
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01-09-2013, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie Yes indeed. | yes, there is a chance? 
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01-11-2013, 02:44 PM
| | | | Hi Dave So is it going to ship today/tomorrow?
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01-13-2013, 04:06 PM
| | | | Realistic expectation David,
I'm coming up on the 7 month wait anniversary. How caught up are you and when can I realisitically expect to get my pickup?
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01-14-2013, 09:47 AM
| | | My pickups didn't ship last week, but I have received the tracking information today. Current status is: Electronic Shipping Info Received.  | 
01-14-2013, 10:11 AM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | I'm running a little behind schedule due to a hand injury.  Both hands actually.
It's healed up nicely but I sprained my right index finger pretty badly which makes holding things between my index and thumb very painful. That made it impossible to wind pickups for a few days. I also can't play bass unless I use a pick. And that hurts too!
But it's not so bad now and I'm back to winding!
So those orders that were supposed to go out last week are going out this week. 
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01-14-2013, 11:01 AM
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01-14-2013, 11:10 AM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ctmullins Ewwww. | You should have seen it the night it happened... when blood was gushing out of that skin flap! I took that photo the next day.
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01-14-2013, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie Ironically he's using star grounding, and yet, you are picking up radio. (big debate about that in another thread where someone swore that would solve all noise problems  ).
I always get nervous when techs start splicing pickup wires. There was more than enough cable on the pickups where that wasn't needed. If it was done for the sake of star grounding, it clearly didn't work well. | In fairness, it probably shouldn't count as star grounding if everything isn't grounded. I'm not a proponent or opponent of star grounding -- I just think it's unfair to judge the merits of anything based on a crappy example.
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01-14-2013, 02:10 PM
| | | | That hurts just looking at!
Also, I haven't seen that Wal thread in a while. What happened to it, and any news? | 
01-14-2013, 02:29 PM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueTalon In fairness, it probably shouldn't count as star grounding if everything isn't grounded. I'm not a proponent or opponent of star grounding -- I just think it's unfair to judge the merits of anything based on a crappy example. | That's true. I was just commenting on all the grounds going to the one pot.
I have noticed that often where there are wiring problems, it's someone who has veered from the standard type wiring schematics and is doing something different, like star grounding.
As it turned out it seems the pickups were wired up in single coil mode!
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01-14-2013, 02:29 PM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupac That hurts just looking at!
Also, I haven't seen that Wal thread in a while. What happened to it, and any news? | It is progressing slowly but surely. Hope to have more news soon.
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01-14-2013, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie That's true. I was just commenting on all the grounds going to the one pot.
I have noticed that often where there are wiring problems, it's someone who has veered from the standard type wiring schematics and is doing something different, like star grounding.
As it turned out it seems the pickups were wired up in single coil mode! | Not in the Clement, in the fretless 5 they were single coil. In the Clement, the same behavior applies that I emailed you earlier:
When fully panned to either pickup, noise is significantly reduced.
When blend is centered, I have the highest amount of noise and radio coming in.
When volume is anywhere between full on, or all the way off, I get large amounts of noise, maxing volume reduces the noise a bit but it's still very audible.
Tapping on both pickups and wiring inspection shows they are in series mode.
The bare wires and green wires are be connected to each other and the thicker green wire which appears to be ground to the volume pot.
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01-14-2013, 02:40 PM
|  | David Schwab Owner, SGD Music Products | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloomfield, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerwylie Not in the Clement, in the fretless 5 they were single coil. In the Clement, the same behavior applies that I emailed you earlier:
When fully panned to either pickup, noise is significantly reduced.
When blend is centered, I have the highest amount of noise and radio coming in.
When volume is anywhere between full on, or all the way off, I get large amounts of noise, maxing volume reduces the noise a bit but it's still very audible.
Tapping on both pickups and wiring inspection shows they are in series mode.
The bare wires and green wires are be connected to each other and the thicker green wire which appears to be ground to the volume pot. | OK, well since when panned to either pickup they are quiet, that shows it's not the pickups. I think there's still an issue with the wiring. Maybe he has the grounds wired up weird on the blend pot. 
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01-14-2013, 03:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Germany, EU | | | Sorry - don't know the whole background ...
But if noise increases when balance is in the middle ...
Are you 100% sure that this is a PAIR of SC pickups? One of them is reversed wound with oposite poling? Otherwise there is no humbucking effect and series mode might make the problem "more hearable" than parallel mode?
The more impedance/resistance is, the higher the noise???
The volume pot not only puts hot to ground but also adds series resistance to the impedance of the pickup (and series PU wiring has more impedance than parallel) ...
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