Bart TBIBT low gain issue

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[luknfur]

Almost invariably the usual suspect actually is bassists expecting their basses to have equal output even though you can drastically alter the output within a given bass by simply altering onboard controls. With a preamp simply by altering the tone controls alone - given most of them have 12+ dB's cut/boost. That's 24+ db for each tone control. The same applies to a passive bass to a lessor degree as treble cranked sounds louder than treble cut cause bass eats up a lot more power and is not as audible to the human ear and a neck pup cranked will yield about 3 times the output of the same pup in bridge position by virtue of it's location alone. In other words the same bass doesn't have the same output unless you always set it the same.

Regardless different basses don't have equal output for the same reason a Corvette and whatever subcompact Chevy makes don't have equal horsepower - they aren't the same animal. That's how it is.

That is an old Bart system which is inherently low output - that's how they were. Most of the newer systems have blue or gray gain trim pots, don't know about the older ones. If it has a trim pot and it's a Bart preamp, that's likely what it does. Note the exisiting setting so you can return to it - crank it and see what it does.

What matters is quality of tone as louder is useless if the tone sucks. In the end it's always the amp gain/volume to get you where you want to go - if you're running through an amp.

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Regardless different basses don't have equal output for the same reason a Corvette and whatever subcompact Chevy makes don't have equal horsepower - they aren't the same animal. That's how it is.
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well..in this case I'm comparing Pedullas to Pedullas as I stated earlier.

[luknfur]

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Originally Posted by luknfur

Regardless different basses don't have equal output for the same reason a Corvette and whatever subcompact Chevy makes don't have equal horsepower - they aren't the same animal. That's how it is.
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well..in this case I'm comparing Pedullas to Pedullas as I stated earlier..control settings flat..same strings..good battery..same pickup height..

Can't seem to get a low B on my 4 string tho..what should I do?

and Chevy's to Chevy's. Why should a bass manufacturer make a bass any more alike than a car a manufacturer if he wants to appeal to a different buyer?

I don't play extended range bass so nothing I deal with but I read a recent thread about strings making significant difference in reading of the low string. My guess is Pedualla constructed a bass that would play it but it's not like they're incapable of a design flaw - or your particular bass doesn't have some anomaly.

I would also check the nut and bridge for soundness.

You might go to harmony central reveiws for the bass and see if there are similar complaints.

Meant to throw this out in the first post but forget. Increasing the voltage in pre doesn't increase the output per se' at all. What it typically does increase the headroom which could decrease the amount of distortion in the output you do have - in effect giving you more useable output not overall output. Effectively works just like amp headroom. EMG has also meantioned increased transient response in their pre's from increasing voltage. So my guess it that applies across the board. At any rate, I would not increase voltage unless the manufacturer recommends as much for that pre. I have ran less voltage with no issues - which is a plus in having to deal with fewer batteries and tight spaces.