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Old 12-27-2012, 09:18 PM
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Bass wont play

I've run into a slight problem. I've been practicing a year with no amp, (I had been using a friend's, but he had to sell it for financial reasons) but now that I have a new one my bass wont work in it. I know the amp isn't the problem, because I tried my old Squire in it and it plays like a dream.

The Squire is passive, so I figured the battery was probably dead in my LTD, but I changed it and it's still not working. Then I opened up the back to check all the soldering, and it all looks fine, as does the jack. I haven't had any power running through the bass for about a year, so I don't see how the electronics could be fried.

My only two guesses are that the amp won't accept input from an active bass, or the battery just isn't good. (The new battery was a cheap dollar store one.)

The amp is a Roland Cube 30 Bass. Does anyone know what the problem might be?
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:24 PM
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IF the battery is good some active basses will need a TRS cable to the amp instead of a normal 2 conductor one.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:35 PM
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A stab

There is a chance that the battery on/off switch contact on the 1/4" jack located inside the bass is contaminated/oxidized. These contacts are out of site inside the 1/4" jack. Try spraying contact cleaner inside the female jack on the bass. These contacts may have failed all together.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:46 PM
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You can also just run a plug in and out of the jack several times really fast and can usually dislodge corrosion if you have any. But cheapo batteries will let you down when you need them, and I don't know of any active preamp maker who recommends using anything but quality alkalines. You can try licking the battery terminals to see if there's still juice in it (WARNING: It will give you a mild shock if it has any juice left), or maybe try it in something else in your house that uses 9v's. I'm betting it's the battery.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:03 PM
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IF the battery is good some active basses will need a TRS cable to the amp instead of a normal 2 conductor one.
And you nailed it.

Can't believe I forgot about this.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:17 PM
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And you nailed it.

Can't believe I forgot about this.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:20 PM
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That was IT? I've NEVER owned a bass that needed a TRS cable, and I've had plenty of active ones. News to me.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:49 PM
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That was IT? I've NEVER owned a bass that needed a TRS cable, and I've had plenty of active ones. News to me.
It is not so much the basses need as the way the amp handles the input.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:23 PM
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IF the battery is good some active basses will need a TRS cable to the amp instead of a normal 2 conductor one.
I never knew LTD basses require TRS plugs. It's just weird. I'm curious as to which other brands of active basses require a TRS plug. I own 15 active basses of various brands, and none require TRS plugs. If you include all the active basses I own or have owned, the brands are:

Breedlove
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You can also just run a plug in and out of the jack several times really fast and can usually dislodge corrosion if you have any.
I'm betting this was the real issue all along.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:15 AM
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I'm betting this was the real issue all along.
5 cents says it's the battery.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:23 AM
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Many years and many many active basses.
Never heard of using a TRS cable
and played through a Roland Cube...no issues
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:36 AM
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Actually active basses typically refuse to work with a TRS cable, precisely because the link to the battery isn't achieved.
I've played several LTDs and none of them required a TRS.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:08 AM
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some active basses will need a TRS cable to the amp instead of a normal 2 conductor one.
Name one factory-produced example of such a thing.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:17 AM
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IF the battery is good some active basses will need a TRS cable to the amp instead of a normal 2 conductor one.
Negative, if anything, a TRS cable will make it stop working because the ring contact on the cable won't close the circuit the way the longer shield contact on a TS cable would.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:40 AM
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... some active basses will need a TRS cable to the amp instead of a normal 2 conductor one.
I would like to hear of an example
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Actually active basses typically refuse to work with a TRS cable, precisely because the link to the battery isn't achieved.
I've played several LTDs and none of them required a TRS.
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Negative, if anything, a TRS cable will make it stop working because the ring contact on the cable won't close the circuit the way the longer shield contact on a TS cable would.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:59 AM
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TRS cable + active bass makes sense for phantom powered amps like EBS. 9V is supplied from the amp to the instrument via the TRS cable.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:04 AM
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I do recall the Line 6 Variax requiring some type of weird-ass cable but that's as close as I can come. TRS for a conventional active bass? Nope.

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Old 12-28-2012, 06:27 AM
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TRS cable + active bass makes sense for phantom powered amps like EBS. 9V is supplied from the amp to the instrument via the TRS cable.
That only works for EBS pedals--it does not work with any basses or any other brand of pedal.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:06 AM
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It is very easy to make any active bass work with the phantom power of EBS amps, all you need to do is to use a TRS cable and shortcut the poles of the battery plug.
Which is totally off the current subject.
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