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01-14-2010, 11:54 AM
|  | Registered User Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | | can someone draw me a diagram?
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I did a search (on TB and Google) and I cant find what I was looking for.
I want to put in a 3 way selector switch on my passive P/J. I want to choose either the P pup , Jazz pup, or blend between them. I have looked at several switches and I am assuming that if I want to go between both pups instead of only one I need something like this: http://elderly.com/accessories/items/FP2041.htm
verses something with only 3 leads on each side. I would think that would control one or the other but not both.
Im actually not too sure, I have drawn up diagrams myself, and searched high and low but cant find a definite answer.
anyone?
someone draw something up?? | 
01-14-2010, 12:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | Do you WANT a knife-switch? You can get a simple toggle switch that takes up a lot less room that'll do the job perfectly. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electron...ctures#details
# 1223 (On/On/On) will do the job. Connect the hot from each PUP to an outer lug, and run the center lug to the volume and tone controls.
John
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01-14-2010, 12:25 PM
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01-14-2010, 12:36 PM
|  | Registered User Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | | as far as the diagram goes.
i know its a different bass, but same set up. | 
01-14-2010, 12:56 PM
|  | Registered User Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | | throwing the tone pot in the mix changes it a bit...
since i have V,V,T. | 
01-14-2010, 01:00 PM
|  | quid verum atque decens Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord_oh throwing the tone pot in the mix changes it a bit...
since i have V,V,T. | Substitute a volume spot for the 3 way toggle and you'll have a master volume instead, unless you really need 2 volumes, then you could always move the jack to the side of the bass and put the 3 way in it's place..
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01-14-2010, 01:06 PM
|  | Registered User Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Alembicplyr Substitute a volume spot for the 3 way toggle and you'll have a master volume instead, unless you really need 2 volumes, then you could always move the jack to the side of the bass and put the 3 way in it's place.. | i actually found a previous thread stating this.
the jack isnt located on the PG anyway, its below it.
so i have room for a switch with doing a master volume.
i like this idea better anyway. | 
01-14-2010, 01:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | If you like having two volumes, that's easy, too.
Just wire the switch in after the volumes and before the tone.
Voila! | 
01-14-2010, 01:55 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JTE Do you WANT a knife-switch? | That's not a knife switch, it's a blade switch.
For obvious reasons, you don't want a knife switch on your bass:
If you need the diagram for VVT plus a 3 way switch, I have this one that covers all three switch types (DPDT On/On/On, Tele style blade and Gibson style toggle.)  | 
01-14-2010, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by line6man That's not a knife switch, it's a blade switch.
For obvious reasons, you don't want a knife switch on your bass:  | DOH!
Thanks for the correction!
John
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01-14-2010, 02:38 PM
|  | Registered User Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | | i work in a radioshack, i knew the difference but didnt notice it i guess.
ill call it a throw switch, even though technically its a knife switch.
thanks for the help guys, now i have a project!! | 
01-14-2010, 04:21 PM
|  | Registered User Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Alembicplyr Substitute a volume spot for the 3 way toggle and you'll have a master volume instead, unless you really need 2 volumes, then you could always move the jack to the side of the bass and put the 3 way in it's place.. | so if i wanted MV, MT, and a switch how would I wire it?
I like pictures! Quote:
Originally Posted by line6man )  | this helped a lot. thanks. | 
01-14-2010, 04:33 PM
|  | quid verum atque decens Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord_oh so if i wanted MV, MT, and a switch how would I wire it?
I like pictures!
this helped a lot. thanks. | Instead of wiring the pickups to the volumes, wire the pickups to the 3 way instead (like in your 3rd post), then from the 3way to the vol to the tone to the jack. | 
01-14-2010, 05:21 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | | TS, are you looking to have this:
Pickups -> Switch -> Master Volume -> Tone?
Or do you want this:
Pickups -> Separate Volumes -> Switch -> Tone?
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01-14-2010, 05:50 PM
|  | Registered User Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | | i want to switch between pups.
i was thinking master volume and master tone.
switching between them would choose which one the pots control right? | 
01-14-2010, 05:51 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord_oh i want to switch between pups.
i was thinking master volume and master tone.
switching between them would choose which one the pots control right? | Yes. | 
01-14-2010, 06:14 PM
|  | quid verum atque decens Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord_oh | Some times, the best way to do it, is to do it. Just don't get too much "analysis paralysis"
The 3 way you are referring to, will be on/on/on in your case.
You should be alright with the "shortys", the right angle could make the cavity a bit tight.
Center lug will go to the volume, one side.. one pickup, other side...other pickup..
I recall Kramer, Ibanez... wiring some basses like this and a few imports too.
I got it!!! It's close to the "Power jazz bass" wiring, except that it had a "sweepable TBX" (Tone/Bass expander) control, otherwise it was 1 vol, 1 tone and a 3 way.
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