DeArmond Gold Tone humbuckers - impedance?
Hi all. First post.
I've been playing for over 40 years and managed to stay pig-ignorant of all things electrical/technical...
I'm the proud owner of a DeArmond (after Guild) Starfire bass, with DeArmond Goldtone pickups. I'm very happy with things as they are - not about to splash out on Curtis Novak's masterpieces or go hunting Fred Hammon.
I need to know the Impedance/resistance of my pickups. Fender can't help. Anyone know? Anyone got a Starfire, a multi meter and a couple of minutes to spare?
Thanks a bunch!
and - the reason why I need to know the impedence of my DeArmond Goldtones is because I'm considering installing Stellartone Tonestylers, which apparently don't work with low impedance, ie less than 3.5k ohms, pickups - and I've read that Goldtones are low impedance. But how low? Less than 3.5k? That's what I need to know. Anyone?
It's rather difficult to determine the impedance of a pickup, because it changes with frequency. People like to throw around DC resistance measurements, however, because it's easy to get a reading from a multimeter. DC Resistance is usually meaningless, but in this case, it gives a hint at the general range of the impedance, since resistance is one component of impedance.
If your DC resistance is ~3.5k Ohms, the pickups probably have a low output impedance, which is going to mean that the filters on the ToneStyler will affect higher ranges of frequencies than with higher impedance pickups.
If you don't use a ToneStyler, you can try a rotary toggle switch with a handful of capacitors, instead, and choose higher values for your capacitance selection. This will give you some filters in usable frequency ranges.
Thanks for that, line6man. Like I said, I know nuuuthing about electrics, but I'm starting to get the gist... Still don't know the resistance of my Goldtones though. Looks like a trip to a friendly local electrician is on the cards.
The late Bill Turner designed the DeArmond pickups for FMIC and he provided me with some of the background on the guitar pickups, but he never mentioned the bass pickups.
The DeArmond guitar pickups were pretty much intentional approximations of vintage Gibson stuff, according to Bill, and I would sort of be surprised if the bass stuff was anything very radical.
Thanks, Bongolation. This is what Jordan Trubakoff at Fender was able to tell me:
So far as I can tell - and I can't tell much - nothing radical, like you say. I'm a 'It's all in the fingers (and strings)' kinda guy, but I would like a little more tonal variation from the electrics. I just don't want to break the bank or rip the bass apart to get that. It seems like Tonestylers may be the answer, but I want to be sure that a Tonestyler is gonna make an appreciable difference to the range of sounds I can get out of what I've got - they ain't cheap! And for that I need to know the impedance/resistance of the pickups. Or maybe line6man's 'rotary toggle switch with a handful of capacitors' is the way to go?
I've still not got around to accessing a multimeter so that I can measure the impedance...I mean DC resistance...of the DeArmond Goldtone humbuckers in my Dearmond/Guild Starfire bass... Anyone know? Anyone got a Starfire, a multi meter and a couple of minutes to spare?
Can't help, but the DeArmond Goldtone pickups were not made in Korea, but in the Fender US pickup shop.
Some of the low-end DeArmond instruments had non-US pickups, but they were not DeArmond Goldtones.
The "MADE IN USA" on the front of the pickups is a tipoff. ;)
I have a set of NOS dearmond goldtones waiting to be used for a project. I have measured the neck pickup for you and it reads 3.92 Kohms. I assume the bridge pickup is a little hotter.
Hi lowerthetone! Thanks a lot. Much appreciated.
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