Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Pickups & Electronics [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-14-2013, 09:14 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Diy preamp help

So, I'm trying to make an Alex Rice preamp http://www.zachpoff.com/diy-resource...-preamplifier/ and I've run into some trouble. I've wired everything up on a solderless breadboard and now I get no signal whatsoever. :banghead: At first I did though, a lot of humm and a very very weak signal from the piezo. I know I've soldered the piezo and the xlr cable correctly, partly because I've tested multiple times with a multimeter and partly because I get sound from the piezo plugged straight in. What I did realize was that I had mixed up the d and s pins on the jfets. Have I ruined them? Have I ruined something else? I've double checked that the resistors are intact but I have no idea of how I would go about testing if the jfets and the capacitors are ok.

Do any kind soul here have any help for a confused beginner on thin ice? :hide:

Last edited by FiskFisk33 : 03-14-2013 at 09:17 AM.
  #2  
Old 03-14-2013, 09:22 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mystic CT
i hope you observed all anti static precautions... pull out the jfets and check them out.. make sure there is continuity between each component legs in the breadboard.. sometimes they dont make good contact.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_3/chpt_5/3.html
__________________
Genz-Benz #429, G&L #502, Ibanez #1034, Mediocre Bassist #883
Genz-Benz Streamliner 900 & Uber Quad, TC BG250
  #3  
Old 03-14-2013, 09:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
I don't think I did actually.. Great link, all my fets seem to be intact. Hm so drain and source are the same on these? And my "mixing them up" actually made no difference?
I've torn this up and reassembled it like 8-9 times now and I think I am starting to grow grey hairs. :banghead:
Could I realistically have murdered a 220pf 50v capacitor during testing with Phantom power?

Could poorly matched jfets result in the total lack of signal or would that just sound not great? My plan was to try different fets and see which ones worked best together or was that just naïve?
  #4  
Old 03-14-2013, 11:07 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mystic CT
absolutely... you are assuming 48V is just 48V.. but even in spec it can be 52V so 50V caps are simply inadequate... should be 100V minimum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FiskFisk33 View Post
Could I realistically have murdered a 220pf 50v capacitor during testing with Phantom power??
you need matched devices in any differential pair configuration.. ie the same device number.

not going to say naive and i applaud your enthusiasm, but just get it working and start using it.. its never going to sound fantastic no matter what..its still a piezo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FiskFisk33 View Post
Could poorly matched jfets result in the total lack of signal or would that just sound not great? My plan was to try different fets and see which ones worked best together or was that just naïve?
__________________
Genz-Benz #429, G&L #502, Ibanez #1034, Mediocre Bassist #883
Genz-Benz Streamliner 900 & Uber Quad, TC BG250
  #5  
Old 03-14-2013, 03:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
I guess I'll order new caps then! Thanks.
About the jfets they are the same make and model so to say, but I've read that their specs can differ a lot (minimum cutoff voltage undefined, typical 3v, max 8v meaning its cutoff voltage could be anything in between >0 and 8v) so for This usage even same device number fets should be tested and matched. My wonders on this subject is whether this kind of mismatch means unusable or just crappy.

I bought a few more than I needed to be able to test around but that plan won't pan out well if poorly matched fets give zero output.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Visit TalkBass on Facebook   Download our iOS app   Download our Android app

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:16 AM.




© 2012 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar too? Visit TalkGuitar.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.