|  | | 
12-11-2009, 01:13 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Exposed Pole pieces, yes or no?
Sign in to disble this ad
Hi gang,
What sound properties do exposed pole pieces give versus covered ones? I find that aesthetically, they look great on a jazz bass, but don't look so hot with a ramp ( which I have ).
Sound first, beauty second— so what is the major ( if any ) difference in sound? | 
12-11-2009, 01:22 PM
|  | Now a major motion picture | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | | Isn't it merely aesthetic? | 
12-11-2009, 01:27 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | | The difference is so moot that it's purely aesthetics.
Pole pieces look aggressive.
No-show pole pieces look sleek.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by McThumpenstein I don't think the wife would buy the "I need to take off this knob and put a whole new bass under it" story. | | 
12-11-2009, 01:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Zagreb, Croatia | | | They're not completely aesthetic - having open pole-pieces runs the risk of clicks should a string ever hit a pole-piece and ground itself through it.
All of my basses are open-poled, however, I taped the pickups on one of my basses as an experiment and the pole-piece clack is gone.
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by rtav Progressive Rock is like pornography - it can be hard to define but I know it when I hear it. | | 
12-11-2009, 01:35 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth They're not completely aesthetic - having open pole-pieces runs the risk of clicks should a string ever hit a pole-piece and ground itself through it.
All of my basses are open-poled, however, I taped the pickups on one of my basses as an experiment and the pole-piece clack is gone. | Sounds like you need a technique adjustment or to lower your pickups.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by McThumpenstein I don't think the wife would buy the "I need to take off this knob and put a whole new bass under it" story. | | 
12-11-2009, 01:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Paul, MN | | | In addition to the clicks, nickel, chrome and gold pickup covers (On the pickups themselves, not vintage Fender style) will affect the high end response of the pickup. However these are very uncommon for bass.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommygunn Eh... I don't know much bout him anyways. I'd think the flecktones mainstream.... | | 
12-11-2009, 01:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nashville | | | A single string of black electrical tape will fix any problems. As will a small dab of clear nail polish, or a dab of black nail polish. | 
12-11-2009, 02:15 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | | It depends on the pickups in question.
Some covered pickups have blade style pole pieces. | 
12-11-2009, 02:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nashville | | | And personally, I tend to prefer blade style pickups. | 
12-11-2009, 02:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany (org. Preston, UK) | | | Wouldn't taping the pole pieces change the responce of the pickup?
I started playing closer to the bridge to avoid the clicks seeing as there is less leverage there, so the sting can't move to close when I play too hard. Plus I also lowered them a bit. | 
12-11-2009, 02:26 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Sooooooooo,
a pickup designer, such as Nordstrand is then making a conscious decision to show his pole pieces I suspect to show off his unique pole placement, then.
I guess what I'm really wondering is, would Carey place his pickups in a covered casing if i ordered them from him as such?
Of course this is hypothetical here, unless Carey or Stew happen to be reading this thread... | 
12-11-2009, 02:30 PM
|  | nyuk nyuk nyuk Affiliated with Tune Guitar Maniac | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles California | | | To put the question another way, is there ANY advantage to having exposed pole pieces? I can't think of any, other than for looks. And no matter how low you set your pickups, there's still an increased chance of unwanted clacks and such with exposed pole pieces (especially on the neck pickup). | 
12-11-2009, 02:30 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Wouldn't taping the pole pieces change the responce of the pickup? |
Tape does not affect the magnetic field, so no. | 
12-11-2009, 02:35 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | sent an email to Nordstrand, I'll let you know what I find out | 
12-11-2009, 02:37 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Jersey/Philly | | | I kinda thought the one advantage for exposed pole pieces is that some manufacturers allow you to adjust the heights of individual poles so you can balance the sound from string to string.
But I think that applies more to guitar rather than bass from what I've seen...
__________________ Bass and Keys for Love, Panther & the Sexual Prowess [facebook] [soundcloud] L.O.G. #338 NJ Bassists Club #78 Roland Club #21 KB Turned Bassists #26 | 
12-11-2009, 03:20 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lincoln Sooooooooo,
a pickup designer, such as Nordstrand is then making a conscious decision to show his pole pieces I suspect to show off his unique pole placement, then.
I guess what I'm really wondering is, would Carey place his pickups in a covered casing if i ordered them from him as such?
Of course this is hypothetical here, unless Carey or Stew happen to be reading this thread... | I imagine, beyond slight, nearly inaudible subtleties, it's mostly aesthetic. Nordstrand has a sort of vintage appeal to them, and I'm pretty sure most of their pickups have exposed pole pieces.
Some companies (can't think of specifics right now, SD maybe?) use exposed pole pieces for only 4- and 5-string pickups, whereas 6-string pickups (of the same model) are covered, and yet there is probably no distinguishable difference.
Exposed pole pieces could also be for string spacing according to a bass' design. Obviously, there is specific, ideal placement for strings in regards to pickup poles, put that requires taking into account the bridge as well.
They may have some reason, and it could be something as small as a 1dB increase above 17.5kHz (just a random, hardly noticeable tonal adjustment), but I'd say it's mostly for aesthetic reasons.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by McThumpenstein I don't think the wife would buy the "I need to take off this knob and put a whole new bass under it" story. | | 
12-11-2009, 03:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Long Island | | | When I touch the poles on fender pickups, it makes static noise, but bill lawrence p46 doesnt make any noise when I touch the pole pieces. How can I get rid of the noise on my fender pickups? | 
12-11-2009, 04:35 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by PrivateHigh When I touch the poles on fender pickups, it makes static noise, but bill lawrence p46 doesnt make any noise when I touch the pole pieces. How can I get rid of the noise on my fender pickups? | Ground the pole pieces or put nailpolish on them. | 
12-11-2009, 04:39 PM
|  | Thread Killer | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Valley of the Sun (AZ) | | Quote:
Originally Posted by natw42 I kinda thought the one advantage for exposed pole pieces is that some manufacturers allow you to adjust the heights of individual poles so you can balance the sound from string to string.
But I think that applies more to guitar rather than bass from what I've seen... | DiMarzio Model Js have this, and I've found it extremely useful. In my opinion, adjustable pole pieces ARE an advantage. Much more precise volume balancing between strings.
__________________ Practice doesn't make perfect - it makes permanent. | 
12-11-2009, 04:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metro D.C. and Brooklyn, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by stflbn A single string of black electrical tape will fix any problems. As will a small dab of clear nail polish, or a dab of black nail polish. | I used clear nail polish on pickup pole pieces. I still got the click when a string touched it....it shouldn't, but it did. I even tried several layers of dabs to no avail
__________________
CLUBS: #201 Ampeg, #37 nekkid FB, #144 Fretless, #244 G&L, #66 Stingray
| | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |