Gypped...

[Plstrns]

Originally Posted by Musiclogic

I wonder how our societies thrived , much less existed with all of the offensive language? Another example of just how ridiculously petty society has become. PC people are just the most inane.

This. When I read the title I knew what I would find.

I'm offended by those easily offended.

[Steveaux]

Originally Posted by Musiclogic

I wonder how our societies thrived , much less existed with all of the offensive language? Another example of just how ridiculously petty society has become. PC people are just the most inane.

^^ This. ^^

[JoZac21]

Originally Posted by Musiclogic

I wonder how our societies thrived , much less existed with all of the offensive language? Another example of just how ridiculously petty society has become. PC people are just the most inane.

"Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right"

- Ricky Gervais

[cybersnyder]

Originally Posted by JoZac21

Some say that he will only play fretless 2 string basses, with the strings tuned a quarter tone apart... and that he won't use strap locks because he likes to "live dangerously"...

All we know is, he's called THE STIG!!!

I got a nice chuckle out of that one. Kudos.

[JoZac21]

Originally Posted by cybersnyder

I got a nice chuckle out of that one. Kudos.

Glad someone appreciated it...

[ronlitz]

I've always heard that gypsies prefer a 3-band eq with volume & blend as opposed to a 2-band EQ and two volumes - so if the stock configuration was a 2-band eq, and now it has a 3-band eq - then yes, it was probably modified by gypsies. But if it originally had a 3-band eq, and now has a 2-band eq, then it was probably not modified by gypsies. Wait - what was the question?

[One Drop]

It's obvious the OP didn't mean any harm and will not use this term in the future.

As to what the world was like before people took offense at terms like this, it was fine for those who used the terms but pretty lousy if you were in the group that was constantly the butt of derogatory names like this. There is absolutely no defense for using terms like this in public.

It's usually only ignorance and not malice that is behind these kinds of names, but some people don't want to believe people when they hear that it hurts to be called these things, and that is pretty weird if you ask me.

Believe me, hearing someone say they jewed someone down makes me angry, and makes me think about some of the things I say that might cause offense to others. Why not learn from threads like this instead of defending something that obviously is a real problem for others?

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by rythman6969

I'm pretty sure that comes from Gypsy. And they're ok to make fun of.

Gypsy comes from Egyptian, which is where they are from originally. It's not OK to make fun of anyone.

[line6man]

Originally Posted by Wwolof

Intent isn't really the point — if the stereotype is perpetuated, it's not good.

I disagree. Words mean nothing on their own. We assign their meaning for ourselves, and usually come to social agreements to share that meaning. Often, words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone is unaware of the origin of the term "gypped," and simply takes it for its denotative definition, there is no harm and no foul. For those who recognize that there are many ways to interpret the term, it would be wise to evaluate the communicator's intent based on context. "Gypped" is not a stereotype of gypsies unless you make that connection and interpret that meaning. It's all in your perception, not the term itself.

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by line6man

Often, words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone is unaware of the origin of the term "gypped," and simply takes it for its denotative definition, there is no harm and no foul.

The word comes from the stereotype that Gypsies swindle people. It's like saying you are going to "jew" someone down on their price instead of saying barter or haggle. That's not nice either. A lot of these phrases came from a time when it was OK to use racial slurs. Like saying "get your cotton picking hands off me". While most people don't associate these as racial slurs anymore, it's best to just use a different word.

[line6man]

Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie

The word comes from the stereotype that Gypsies swindle people. It's like saying you are going to "jew" someone down on their price instead of saying barter or haggle. That's not nice either. A lot of these phrases came from a time when it was OK to use racial slurs. Like saying "get your cotton picking hands off me". While most people don't associate these as racial slurs anymore, it's best to just use a different word.

Which is why you account for context and intent. Societies change, but language often takes a long time to catch up. People use certain phrases without knowing or thinking about their origins all the time, but don't necessarily mean to offend.

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by line6man

Which is why you account for context and intent. Societies change, but language often takes a long time to catch up. People use certain phrases without knowing or thinking about their origins all the time, but don't necessarily mean to offend.

Agreed. So the best you can do is educate people to the meanings, since most people just repeat certain phrases without even thinking about it. We all grew up saying certain things without even knowing why and where they came from.

So that's what we were doing here.

[rythman6969]

WOW. You are a sad bunch if you really get offended that easily. You should probably not go on internet forums if you are so fragile.

I'll make fun of whom ever I choose.

If you like you can make all the Lithuania jokes you want. Or say anything about the Norwegian, and it wont make any difference.

For that matter, you can say anything you want about my nationality.
Why ? Because it's a joke on an internet forum. And it doesn't really matter.

Get a life and grow some skin you sad, sad people.

[hdracer]

Shouldn't this thread be moved to OT or shut down all together?
The OP got his answer in the 2nd post.

[rythman6969]

noooooo...... lets all cry about how mean the world is and how everything is so unfair, and mean people suck and how there is no room for humor or sarcasm in this already cruel world.

[Steveaux]

What's the best gypsy for metal ?

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by Steveaux

What's the best gypsy for metal ?

Probably something along the lines of "Gypsy Queen" something or another... I knew a Gypsy once, and she was quite a queen.

[cybersnyder]

Originally Posted by rythman6969

WOW. You are a sad bunch if you really get offended that easily. You should probably not go on internet forums if you are so fragile.

I'll make fun of whom ever I choose.

If you like you can make all the Lithuania jokes you want. Or say anything about the Norwegian, and it wont make any difference.

For that matter, you can say anything you want about my nationality.
Why ? Because it's a joke on an internet forum. And it doesn't really matter.

Get a life and grow some skin you sad, sad people.

While in the Army our required racial sensitivity training consisted of telling racial jokes. Obviously not the Army approved training, but things often change when they hit the local level. The best part was when our 6' 6", 300 lbs (absolutely no fat) black drill sergeant called the 100 lbs white guy up on the stage. (Fortunately I was the second smallest.) He told him, "Tell me a n---- joke, now Private and make me laugh!!" Talk about a look of despair and fear. Thank God I weighed ten pounds more than him!!! Basic training was a lot of fun.

[grygrx]

Closed, when I get home later I'll review and see what needs to happen.