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03-08-2008, 03:22 PM
| | | | Hi-fi sound of EMG but warmth of Barts?
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Hi,
I am looking to get new pickups for a Thumb bass. I want (as the title says) the Hi-fi sound of EMGs with out the brittleness of them and the warmth of some Barts, but is louder. David [ravenmoon] I'm looking into your pickups for both my Jazz Bass and the Warwick, but am still looking at different pickups.
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Arpeggi
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03-08-2008, 05:46 PM
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03-08-2008, 06:31 PM
|  | Quatre-cordes | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA /El Paso TX | | hmmm, you are trying to have your cake and eat it too 
one pickup I know had the clarity of EMG and the warmth of Barts: Lane Poor, but the output was low, and had to be coupled with his preamp |
03-10-2008, 10:20 AM
| | | hhhmmmm ......... maybe Delano?  |
03-10-2008, 10:27 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh | | | get one Bart and one EMG.... |
03-10-2008, 10:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nashville | | | I tamed my EMG 40hz's down with a Tube Pre, and Flats. |
03-10-2008, 10:40 AM
| | Quatre-cordes | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA /El Paso TX | | BTW EMG Js in my heavier than normal alder J sounded quite warm, no brittleness there at all. Oh and the strings have been dead for about 4 years too.. |
03-10-2008, 10:48 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands, Groningen | | | Are you sure it's the pu's? Have a look at your pre-amp too.
To me Seymour Duncan's and the East U-Retro are a perfect combination to produce all sorts of flavours without losing the character of the bass. |
03-10-2008, 11:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyl  hmmm, you are trying to have your cake and eat it too
one pickup I know had the clarity of EMG and the warmth of Barts: Lane Poor, but the output was low, and had to be coupled with his preamp | The closest I've heard to Lane Poor pickups are Villex pickups ("Classic", the currently available line). The output needs no preamp
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03-10-2008, 11:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Buda, TX. | | | DELANO, INDEED! It's like cake, frosting, & lit candles. |
03-10-2008, 11:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Racine,Wi | | EASY!!! Use an Aggie preamp with EMG's. My friend did this and achieved the exact results you're looking for. PM Robear22 here on Talkbass he can give you the skinny.
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03-10-2008, 11:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Houston, TX | | Perhaps EMG's "CS" (ceramic and steel) type is what you're looking for.
They don't seem to say anything on their site about any J models that have the CS option, but they are listed on their 2007-2008 price list........ from the price list it looks like they are available only as a 2 pickup set, but perhaps a dealer could special order them individually.
This is from Bass Emporium's web site...... Quote: |
The JCS (Ceramic & Steel) model pickups are loaded with steel. The CS pickups are much warmer as a result of higher inductance, have a smoother attack and a flatter high end. They are the most "Traditional" sounding of the group.
| It's basically the same thing EMG says about the 40CS and 40TW on their website. I recently played a Spector that had a 40TW in the bridge position and it was MUCH warmer sounding than typical EMGs........ very very nice.... I now have plans to get a 40TW for a bass I have that currently has a 40P5 and a 40DC. The 40DC is good for adding definition and bite to the 40P5, but it's pretty useless on its own.
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03-10-2008, 09:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA | | Seriously consider checking out Delano pickups. They're clean and clear but with the warmth and ceramic characteristics of Bartolini pickups. I just put some into my six string and they're fabulous.
edit: check with Brian at www.bestbassgear.com. I know that he just got a shipment of them in. |
03-10-2008, 10:01 PM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | | Try EMG's with a bart pre. Some guys around here have done that and like it. |
03-10-2008, 10:26 PM
|  | Remember 12/21/2012! ...it's my birthday! | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheviot, OH | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiFish I am looking to get new pickups for a Thumb bass. I want (as the title says) the Hi-fi sound of EMGs with out the brittleness of them and the warmth of some Barts, but is louder. David [ravenmoon] I'm looking into your pickups for both my Jazz Bass and the Warwick, but am still looking at different pickups. | I would consider it impossible to have pickups that are both "warm" sounding AND "hifi". But if you're looking for something in the middle of EMG's and Bart's, try Duncans. That's what Warwick used on a lot of earlier basses and still offer it as a custom option, and the Duncan active J's are my favorite jazz pickups. They have decent output, are very well balanced across the board, and have a good punchy growl that sits somewhere between EMG's hifi sound and Bartolini's warmth.
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03-10-2008, 10:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA | | | Also, don't be afraid to try the Bartolini CB series pickups. They're much more open sounding compared to the original Barts, but they still have that wonderful Bartolini warmth. |
03-10-2008, 10:29 PM
| | Quatre-cordes | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA /El Paso TX | | I used to have a set of active Duncans J on sale here on the classifieds but I moved it to ebay due to the lack of interest of TBers, somehow they got a bad rep  |
03-10-2008, 10:39 PM
| | | | Right now I'm thinking either Seymour Duncan, Delano, or Activators. All with a ACG filter preamp, or maybe the stock preamp for the Alembics.
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03-11-2008, 03:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bristol, UK | | | The only ones I have used that would fit your needs are the Semour Duncan Basslines - the active soapbar ones (EMG sized). I suspect the other SD active pickups are voiced the same, but haven't heard them.
They have the clarity of EMG's but warmer sounding, particularly with a touch of bass boost - a nice tone.
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