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04-07-2011, 06:13 PM
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For sometime now, I have been toying with the idea of replacing my stock Fender Jazz pickups on my '96 Jazz to humuckers, mainly because I would like to favor the bridge pickup sometimes to get that Jazz bass growl, without the 60 cycle hum I get with the stock pickups whenever I do this . I have never used humbuckers before, so I'm at a loss as to what kind to get. Am I right in thinking that they will eliminate the hum I am getting with the stock pups, and what are the ones I should be looking at ? It's a 4 string, MIA Fender Jazz. Also, any difference in tone in switching to this style of pickup ?
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04-07-2011, 06:42 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | | Why wouldn't they?
As long as you have an even number of coils, the bass will humcancel. |
04-07-2011, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark  Am I right in thinking that they will eliminate the hum I am getting with the stock pups ?
Also, any difference in tone in switching to this style of pickup ? | Yep, they're humbucker.
Yes, humbucker sound like humbucker.
More seriously, I had some older Fender SCN noiseless that had a more "single coil" tone than some other pickups, like barts or Dimarzio Model J. Not that these pickups sounds bad, but they don't have the traditional J tone. Dimarzio Ultra Jazz are pretty good at it too. |
04-07-2011, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Marton Yep, they're humbucker.
Yes, humbucker sound like humbucker.
More seriously, I had some older Fender SCN noiseless that had a more "single coil" tone than some other pickups, like barts or Dimarzio Model J. Not that these pickups sounds bad, but they don't have the traditional J tone. Dimarzio Ultra Jazz are pretty good at it too. | Funny, I played a Jazz that had the Fender noiseless pickups in them, and they still had the hum when I backed off the neck pup. maybe I'll just have to live with the hum if the humbuckers change the tone that much.
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04-07-2011, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by line6man Why wouldn't they?
As long as you have an even number of coils, the bass will humcancel. | I don't know why they would'nt, thus my question. Care to give an example of a replacement ?
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04-07-2011, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark Funny, I played a Jazz that had the Fender noiseless pickups in them, and they still had the hum when I backed off the neck pup. maybe I'll just have to live with the hum if the humbuckers change the tone that much. | Was it a older American Deluxe ? Those basses are noisy as hell, but the preamp was the problem. |
04-07-2011, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark Funny, I played a Jazz that had the Fender noiseless pickups in them, and they still had the hum when I backed off the neck pup. | then something was wrong, because those things should have been dead quiet, or at least way quieter than regular single coils. Quote:
Originally Posted by jnewmark maybe I'll just have to live with the hum if the humbuckers change the tone that much. | the closest i've heard to straight-up J pickups are the dimarzio area Js.
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04-07-2011, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Marton Was it a older American Deluxe ? Those basses are noisy as hell, but the preamp was the problem. | No, it was a stock MIA Jazz. Maybe wired wrong ?
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04-08-2011, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark Care to give an example of a replacement ? | Dimarzio UltraJazz or Area J pickups IMO.
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04-08-2011, 02:58 AM
|  | No need to ask, he's a smooth... Moderator | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Midlands UK | | | Dual coil J pickups do eliminate the hum, but I haven't heard any yet that sound just like the single coils. Man, if I could get some that sounded exactly the same I would pay top $$$ for them. |
04-08-2011, 04:44 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia | | | Lindy Fralin's Split-Jazz are noiseless, and sound darned close to pure single coils. Unless you need that extra "sparkle" with the treble up all the way, they're functionally the same IMO, and they record really well too. I think they're outstanding. For my new G&L JB, I've decided to try DiMarzio Area J's, and should have them in a few weeks.
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04-08-2011, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rano Bass Dimarzio UltraJazz or Area J pickups IMO. | Went to the Dimarzio site to read up on these. From what I read, they are not as powerful as single coils ?
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04-08-2011, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Nedmundo Lindy Fralin's Split-Jazz are noiseless, and sound darned close to pure single coils. Unless you need that extra "sparkle" with the treble up all the way, they're functionally the same IMO, and they record really well too. I think they're outstanding. For my new G&L JB, I've decided to try DiMarzio Area J's, and should have them in a few weeks. | Those look interesting. What is the " steel poled " version ? Also, what are the advantages of under or over winding ? I'm really a novice at this stuff !
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04-08-2011, 06:08 AM
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04-08-2011, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark Went to the Dimarzio site to read up on these. From what I read, they are not as powerful as single coils ? | The dimarzio ultras are plenty powerful... they are just not as powerful (LOUD!) as their model J.
Seymour Duncan also makes a stacked humbucker jazz replacement - check these out as well....
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04-08-2011, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark Those look interesting. What is the " steel poled " version ? Also, what are the advantages of under or over winding ? I'm really a novice at this stuff ! | Overwinding will make them hotter and more powerful in the lows but a bit less sparkle in the highs.
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04-08-2011, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bassybill Dual coil J pickups do eliminate the hum, but I haven't heard any yet that sound just like the single coils. Man, if I could get some that sounded exactly the same I would pay top $$$ for them. | Thats just it...You just cannot get that single coil sound out of them.
I'm willing to deal with hum for that single sound.
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04-08-2011, 07:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mississippi Coast | | One thing that always bothered me with all my Jazz basses was hum, especially in venues where the lights were on the same circuit. I installed Ultra Jazz pups but couldn't get a good string balance without individual pole adjustments (I like a vintage type radius), so I've been using Model Js for the last few years. To me, they're a full bodied pickup with great hum cancelling properties.
recently though, I've been jonesing for a vintage single coil tone, but with hum cancelling. The Dimarzio Area Js have been highly recommended, so whenever I have a little extra cash, I'll probably try 'em.
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04-08-2011, 07:34 AM
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04-08-2011, 07:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Worth/Dallas | | | I put Nordstrand humcancelling J's into a Fender Active Deluxe V I bought used. I really like to solo the neck pickup but wanted something dead quiet.
The "noiseless" pickups that came with the bass were...noisy! I replaced the preame with the audere first, but the pickups were still very buzzy. The nordstands are really nice pickups.
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