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02-13-2013, 05:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Germany, EU | | | The pickups can only pick up the signal the strings provide ...
Try Halfround strings. Much more brilliant than flatwounds but with a lot of extra punch ...
For the PUs, DiMarzio, Delano or Schaller ... | 
02-13-2013, 07:04 AM
|  | Cort bassist by obligation | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Florida | | | Has anyone tried the Will Power P paired with an Ultra Jazz?
Or rather how would this compare against the DiMarzio Model P/J?
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02-13-2013, 07:18 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Montclair, NJ | | | Definitely go with the dimarzios. The will power is a tad hotter than the model p, the model p and ultra jazz i have had in a couple of basses and are very well matched to each other in output and tone. Will power works better as a standalone, IMO, i have one in my p bass now and it kills. | 
02-13-2013, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by eddiebo Definitely go with the dimarzios. The will power is a tad hotter than the model p, the model p and ultra jazz i have had in a couple of basses and are very well matched to each other in output and tone. Will power works better as a standalone, IMO, i have one in my p bass now and it kills. | In a PJ, which would you pick from my DiMarzio choices?
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02-13-2013, 07:31 AM
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02-13-2013, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by eddiebo Model P with ultra jazz | Really? Why is that?
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02-13-2013, 08:43 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Montclair, NJ | | | Those two are the closest match in "perceived" output and tonality and sound best together. Even though the output on the Ultra Jazz J is 250 and the model P is 163 - the 150 output of the model J sounds weak against the model P because of the pronounced mids inherent to the P pickup.
The Willpower has even more punch and mid and two different wiring options but I think you will find the options dont match as well against the jazz as the Model P, and is a little more modern sounding.
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02-13-2013, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by eddiebo Those two are the closest match in "perceived" output and tonality and sound best together. Even though the output on the Ultra Jazz J is 250 and the model P is 163 - the 150 output of the model J sounds weak against the model P because of the pronounced mids inherent to the P pickup.
The Willpower has even more punch and mid and two different wiring options but I think you will find the options dont match as well against the jazz as the Model P, and is a little more modern sounding. | This may be the winner if the owner agrees to sell me this bass (fingers crossed)
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02-13-2013, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by millsbass5 You cannot go wrong with older DiMarzio pups. As a matter of fact, it's probably the only way to go. IMHO, of course. | Agreed! I recently scored a '70's DiMarzio P pup, and it kicks all kinds of rock & roll tail. 
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02-13-2013, 12:18 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lansing, Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiebo Those two are the closest match in "perceived" output and tonality and sound best together. Even though the output on the Ultra Jazz J is 250 and the model P is 163 - the 150 output of the model J sounds weak against the model P because of the pronounced mids inherent to the P pickup.
The Willpower has even more punch and mid and two different wiring options but I think you will find the options dont match as well against the jazz as the Model P, and is a little more modern sounding. |
Odd. I tried this combination. The Ultra-J in the bridge overpowered the Model-P by a large margin. It also was unbalanced in volume from string to string at the bridge compared to the Model-P. Those two things made me want to put the Model-J back in, and I ended up liking that better after hearing it compared. To each his own.
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02-13-2013, 04:39 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | I didn't care for the Ultrajazz with my Model P. I think the Model J works better with the Model P personally. The Ultrajazz sounds more like a vintage pickup. I've got it paired with a 62 CS P now, and it's a much better match IMHO. But like they say...everyone's got an opinion.
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02-13-2013, 04:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bethel CT | | | I was just about to ask the same question for the same bass. I dont know if its the basswood body or the original pickups but my Jazz Special has an odd mid range tone that I dont care for. It doesnt sound bad in the mix really but its pretty nasally.
Im considering either a Model P/J set up for a Basslines SPB2/SJB2
My other bass has EMGs, No preamp and has much better punch and clarity but Id like to keep this one passive.
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02-13-2013, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bassgod76 I looked on TB, but couldn't find my exact inquiry.
I may be getting a new bass that is a PJ type. I've played this bass and the pickups are pretty weak.
I want this bass to:
-Be an aggressive type, rock monster (makes devil horns)
-Not use active pickups.
-Be wired to the TBX circuit already installed in this bass.
-Not cost more than $200 for the set.
I have a set of Seymour Duncan SPB-3, but I'm open to using other P pickups.
I'm also open to not having both pickups from the same manufacturer.
I don't think I will care about J hum, since I'd rarely solo the J pup. In short, I doubt I'd care if the J was a single coil.
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aggressive rock monster....screams a set of EMG X series P pickups with a BQC control. But It fails all your criteria. damn | 
02-13-2013, 06:16 PM
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02-13-2013, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM I didn't care for the Ultrajazz with my Model P. I think the Model J works better with the Model P personally. The Ultrajazz sounds more like a vintage pickup. I've got it paired with a 62 CS P now, and it's a much better match IMHO. But like they say...everyone's got an opinion. | Should I think about an ultra jazz and CS P, or is this too vintage for my desired goal?
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02-20-2013, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bassgod76 Has anyone tried the Will Power P paired with an Ultra Jazz?
Or rather how would this compare against the DiMarzio Model P/J? | I'll be trying the Will Power/Ultra Jazz combo tonight. I'll let you know. | 
02-20-2013, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NKBassman I'll be trying the Will Power/Ultra Jazz combo tonight. I'll let you know. | Okay
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02-20-2013, 01:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winnipeg | | | FWIW, the Model P and the Will Power P are both great rock pickups. WP being a bit hotter, MP being slight more "traditional" sounding, but still hotter than your average P p'up. | 
02-20-2013, 04:18 PM
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02-20-2013, 05:13 PM
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