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Old 09-10-2006, 07:31 AM
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I have a MIM standard jazz bass that was manufactured in 2000. I replaced the stock pickups with a set of Seymour Duncan Vintage Jazz Bass pickups, and the tone improved considerably. However, I am a precision guy and as you can expect, I simply cannot get the punch out of it that I can from my precisions. I do, however, love the shape and feel of the jazz, much more than the precision.

Rather than selling this for another model, I would like to see if there is any way of getting the P sound from the jazz. I suspect the answer is no, since the only thing that sounds like a precision is a precision, but has anyone tried a stacked humbucking pickup in a Jazz bass? How close would this get me to the precision sound or is it not worth the investment and effort? I was thinking about trying on in the neck position but if it won't give me more punch, than it may not be worth it.

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You can come close, but it will never be exactly like a P-Bass. Nordstrand and Aero both make dual coil humcanceling JBass pickups that will do the job.
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:53 AM
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MY friend did this to his jazz bass, and in the end he just wasted his money cuz it just doesnt sound like a p. dont know why though
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What about selling your Jazz bass, and getting something with a PJ configuration, like the Fender Aerodyne?



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What about selling your Jazz bass, and getting something with a PJ configuration, like the Fender Aerodyne?



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+1, especially since you like the "P" so much. I've got a P/J Franken passive 5 and it's all the bass I could ever possibly want.

I've used a "J5" for years and liked it a lot, but when this one got finished, I saw what I'd been missing. And what I grew up loving.

Now I have the best of both worlds!


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Take your bass to a good luthier/tech and have him rout out a P pup slot in the appropriate position and pop in your fave P pup. BAM!! Instant coolness!

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that would run a fairly high bill
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...or, if you prefer a P-sized neck, the Frank Bello signature:

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Old 09-10-2006, 09:33 PM
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If you want a J with a P sound, get the MIM Reggie Hamilton Standard. It's incredibly versatile. P/J pups, 3 band eq, active/passive switching. Oh crap, I'm GASing again...
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I might get crucified for this, but you might want to try the Mark Hoppus Signature Bass. Its basically an MIM J with Quarter Pounder pickups, plus it comes in some unique colors if that's your thing. I like pink myself, lol. Everybody else's suggestions have been good too though. Just my 2 cents.
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You might also want to try the Yamaha BB414.

I started off playing a friend's Fender P-Bass, and when it came time to get my own, I tried the Fender Jazz. I loved the single coil at the bridge, but the neck pickup was weak when solo'd; I really missed the punch of the split pickup. I settled for the Yammy, since it had the P/J combo, had great reviews, and was around the same price as the MiM P and J basses.

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Hey, my first post!

Another option is to install a series / parallel switch using a control pot with a DPDT push-pull switch. In series, the output is higher, and the sound is thicker and darker, which might be what you're looking for. I have one installed in my Jazz and there is a significant difference between parallel and series.
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I have a MIM standard jazz bass that was manufactured in 2000. I replaced the stock pickups with a set of Seymour Duncan Vintage Jazz Bass pickups, and the tone improved considerably. However, I am a precision guy and as you can expect, I simply cannot get the punch out of it that I can from my precisions. I do, however, love the shape and feel of the jazz, much more than the precision.

Rather than selling this for another model, I would like to see if there is any way of getting the P sound from the jazz. I suspect the answer is no, since the only thing that sounds like a precision is a precision, but has anyone tried a stacked humbucking pickup in a Jazz bass? How close would this get me to the precision sound or is it not worth the investment and effort? I was thinking about trying on in the neck position but if it won't give me more punch, than it may not be worth it.

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for $10 and 1 hr of wiring...you should do a series mod on your jazz (pulling the knob puts the pickups in series)...it won't get "that precision sound" but it will definitely give your bass a low-mid-punch dimension that most P-players appreciate...
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There's also the new Aerodyne classic P. It's P/J and passive. Looks pretty coo.
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My solution to the same problem was a set of DiMarzio J pickups. They have a punchy, meaty sound very close to a P.
The coils are end to end, not stacked, and they use ceramic magnets that are aggresive. With lots of neck and a little bridge you get punch and a near P sound. They are 4 conductor and with two small switches you can get parallel or series with either pickup or both. Parallel is nice for ballads and slap, series for the P punch. These pups are not that expensive new and show up here used quite regularly.
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A J Retro Preamp will go a long way toward what you want.
Plenty of punch and lots of tonal variations. They are a drop fit replacement for the Jazz control panel.
Another thing you should try is series/parallel switch for the pickups.
Wiring them in series fattens your tone and lends some serious punch.
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:47 PM
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+1 on the DiMarzio Model J's

These are side by side humbuckers, just like the P-bass pickups except in a smaller package. Wont get the exact P-Bass tone, but it will be close and it will be thick and ballsy.
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+1 on the series wiring mod. I've got it on my Fernandes J clone and I always leave it in series. Much thicker.
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A J Retro Preamp will go a long way toward what you want.
Plenty of punch and lots of tonal variations. They are a drop fit replacement for the Jazz control panel.
Another thing you should try is series/parallel switch for the pickups.
Wiring them in series fattens your tone and lends some serious punch.
How do you wire the exisiting pickups in series? Do you have a wiring diagram?
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How do you wire the exisiting pickups in series? Do you have a wiring diagram?
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