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Old 04-03-2010, 08:51 AM
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Just getting into midi gear and started using my laptop with reason synths live via a little m-audio axiom25 in addition to playing bass, (essentially saving me a lot on effects) What I really want to do is play the midi sounds through the bass itself, instead of switching back and forth to keyboard. All of the research I've done so far shows me that I need some sort of midi converter(interface like the V-Bass) in addition to the actual midi pickup. My main question is this: is it possible to plug into let's say a firewire digital audio io interface with midi in? or is it still an unconverted signal? basically what's the minimum number of steps or connections(gear) to get me into reason with my bass? Any help is appreciated! (this site is awesome)

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Old 04-03-2010, 08:55 AM
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as far as I know all the midi pick-ups for instruments will give you a midi out so at the very least you'll need a midi to fw box. I would also be a little concerned about latency . . .
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:46 AM
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To be specific, what the bass outputs is pitch- the frequency for each string, an external box converts pitch to midi. Those boxes are like the Roland GR-20 or 30 floor synths or the GI-10/20 pitch to midi interface. Axon 50/100 synths are an option as well.

Best way to get that into your DAW is via midi for Roland and USB for Axon. So you end up with bass (or guitar) ==> converter ==>FW interface via midi/DAW ==>Reason
Latency down low is not good. So plan on playing your lines an octave higher on the neck and then transposing the synth patch down an octave. If I were doing this with a bass again (this was last years experiment for me ...) then I would do it with a 5 string, strung E through C or a baritone guitar ... I was working with a Godin A4. Their (SA) guitars and basses have electronics from an outfit named RMC. RMC smokes Roland for the synth interface. The integration is way better.

What works best for me is a synth guitar. I use a Godin MultiAC or XT/SA guitars and transpose the patch down. Yes it's a PITA - but it works better... Your midi controller and some compact stand (mic stand adaptor ?) it not a bad solution for live IMO.

You can cheat. You know those pesky black keys ? While you are in the learning the keyboard stage, just transpose the keyboard into the C equivalent and stay on the ivories... yes it's cheating and yes you really should learn the keyboard but you can get some other things accomplished that way while you are learing...
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Old 04-03-2010, 08:25 PM
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Thanks 4Mal, that's really helpful stuff there, I'm on the hunt for a midi interface as I type.
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