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Old 12-14-2013, 11:38 PM
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MM/J pickup choice?

Hello Forum, I've got a few questions you guys might be able to help me out with.. I'm getting a custom built bass soon, it's gonna be a maple/maple neck with an ash body (bolt on), 34" five string with an MM pickup in bridge and a J pickup in the neck position. Now, for the bridge I've picked out SD Basslines SMB-5A MusicMan style pickup (heard it, played it, liked it) but then two questions came into my mind.. the more important one is which J pickup would you recommend me to compliment the MM I mentioned (it should be SD)? I'm looking for a relatively modern full funky sound.. the second question would be about the possibility of wiring these two pickups in a vol - bal - tone - tone - S/P/S switch (for MM) setup?
Any help and suggestions would be welcome, thanks in advance
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:02 AM
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Well, since you've already chosen the bridge pickup it would probably be best to contact Seymour Duncan and find out which pickup is recommended as a match for it. The wiring diagrams you need are also on their website, what you are looking to do is a very simple hookup so there shouldn't be any issues.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:07 AM
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Great, just wanted to check about the wiring since I don't know jack about it.. I've sent a mail but I'm always more interested to hear the actual users' opinion
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Personally, I wouldn't bother with a blend pot. You have pickups of very dissimilar output impedances, so blending will be inherently problematic. Reducing the MM's volume will boost the J's volume, as the input impedance on the J pickup increases. Switching-based schemes tend to be more practical.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:17 AM
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Seems logical, I'll definitely consider it with my luthier.. thanks!
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Personally, I wouldn't bother with a blend pot. You have pickups of very dissimilar output impedances, so blending will be inherently problematic. Reducing the MM's volume will boost the J's volume, as the input impedance on the J pickup increases. Switching-based schemes tend to be more practical.
That's never been a problem with any other properly matched J/MM setups.
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That's never been a problem with any other properly matched J/MM setups.
Depends on the player's preferences. It bothers some people, while others are fine with it.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:12 PM
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So, the blend is gone, I'm doing a five way switch.. as for the pickup, any ideas? The guys at the SD forum mentioned Quarter Pound J but wouldn't it be a bit too aggressive?

also thanks for the help again
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So, the blend is gone, I'm doing a five way switch.. as for the pickup, any ideas? The guys at the SD forum mentioned Quarter Pound J but wouldn't it be a bit too aggressive?

also thanks for the help again
Not as aggressive as the bridge pickup you have
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:40 AM
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Haha I guess you are right.. I was thinking about getting a balance with a smoother J pickup but what the hell!
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Get the lower output Seymour Duncan Basslines SBJ. Goes great with the SD MM.
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hmm.. interdasting.. can't find any good clips of it though..
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hmm.. interdasting.. can't find any good clips of it though..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwGxRf_rAIk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWfEyYca1Ew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdbTxQDJRTo

Same bass player. Nothing guarantees you'll sound like him though.
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DAMN! That guy has one fat-ass grizzly bear of a sound! Well yeah, it's not really an objective recording since he has a lot of stuff in his signal chain so.. back to the Batcave :/

I think I'll just dive in and buy the QP..
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DAMN! That guy has one fat-ass grizzly bear of a sound! Well yeah, it's not really an objective recording since he has a lot of stuff in his signal chain so.. back to the Batcave :/

I think I'll just dive in and buy the QP..
Really? What does he have in his signal chain?

Pretty sure he just plugs straight in, tunes half a step down, and has VERY low action for that sound.

But yeah, grizzly as heck!
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Well, an active onboard preamp, the head, cab, acoustics and other instruments, mic etc influence the sound enough that I can't really get objective information on how the pickup itself sounds..
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Well, an active onboard preamp, the head, cab, acoustics and other instruments, mic etc influence the sound enough that I can't really get objective information on how the pickup itself sounds..
I hear you on that, but you can hear his more pure tone in the solo thumb picking one where he describes his gear -- an Aguilar Tone Hammer 500 and a 1x12.

Otherwise, you can check these videos out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DPCLPcWo4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaO0yAgisn8

Might help... Dude just goes through a GK 1001rb head and some 4x10's. A standard setup which you should be able to hear "through".

Of course the pre might be something entirely custom or whatever, but the pickups still have their signature sound.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:11 PM
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Got it, much clearer now.. thanks a bunch for sending me the vids!
Now I'm again thinking should I get this one or the QP.. both sound pretty good to me.. bah!
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Yeah both will be cooool. Just depends on what you're going for in terms of jazz pickup strength and balls.
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