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Old 03-04-2013, 03:32 PM
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Need help with wiring - brain scrambled!

I've done searches, I've drawn diagrams, I've beaten my head against the desk. Now I type it out in my typical tl;dr style and hope someone sticks with me.

I'm trying to set up the wiring on my current project. I'm going to go with my Nordy MM in the bridge with a single coil ('51 or J, separate thread later on) in the neck. I'll be running all of it through my John East MMSR 2 band.

The following three combos are mandatory.
  • MM solo Parallel
  • MM North + Neck Series
  • MM North + Neck Parallel

I'm going to use a 5-way Super Switch to try to get the following settings

Pos 1 MM parallel, no blend
Pos 2 MM North Coil/Single parallel, no blend
Pos 3 MM Series, no blend
Pos 4 All three coils, blend pot between MM and single
Pos 5 MM North Coil/Single series, blend pot between North and Single

I'm not married to those switch settings, but I think that would be the most logical way to do it for the way I play. I'm open to suggestions on whether the north or south coil would be better to run with the single, but the general idea is to get Stingray and Jazz sounds from the instrument, and the north coil is in the right position.

I'm planning to use a Stewmac stacked blend pot so I can get the benefits of dual volumes with a single pot. Obviously this pot is only necessary for the series settings, so I should be able to wire it into the switch in only those positions. The MMSR has a master volume and I'm not planning to wire in a bypass, so I don't think I need any other controls. Four knobs and a switch are about my limit.

I'm great at soldering, but terrible at the logic of wiring, and I haven't found a diagram that fits exactly what I want to do. I'm not afraid of working it out, but it's not my strength.

At this stage, all I'm asking is that someone warn me if they see I'm trying something that's impossible or offer an idea to simplify my plan. I'd like to use this thread as a sounding board so I can kind of think through it with help from fellow TBers. The bonus is that we then have a written record of how to wire this up. (If someone can find a thread that already covers this that I somehow missed, I'll gleefully delete this one)

I drew out each individual setting with a normal 5-way switch in MSPaint, but my brainpan overloaded half way through. I'm replacing it with a super switch and starting over. I'll post them up as I get them done.

I'm using the diagram for the super switch that GE sells.

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You do not have enough poles to bypass a blend pot. You will need two poles for series/parallel/north coil/south coil splitting and pickup selection of the MM pickup, and one pole for pickup selection of the single coil pickup. That leaves one pole free for other things.
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You do not have enough poles to bypass a blend pot. You will need two poles for series/parallel/north coil/south coil splitting and pickup selection of the MM pickup, and one pole for pickup selection of the single coil pickup. That leaves one pole free for other things.
Because there's a separate output for blended and unblended, right?
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Because there's a separate output for blended and unblended, right?
On second thought, what you could do is simply shunt the inputs of the blend. The parallel resistance of the pot will still be in the circuit, however.

Position five will not be possible, however, as there are not enough poles to run two pickups in series with a blend. You can run them in parallel with the blend, though.
I'll draw a diagram for this later.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:44 PM
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On second thought, what you could do is simply shunt the inputs of the blend. The parallel resistance of the pot will still be in the circuit, however.
Just putting it inline on those two switch settings was the original thought. I assumed they'd be out of the loop when not in that position. I suppose the active preamp could override any negatives the resistance would create.

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Position five will not be possible, however, as there are not enough poles to run two pickups in series with a blend. You can run them in parallel with the blend, though.
I'll draw a diagram for this later.
Okay. I'd be willing to sacrifice two of the other settings for it. I'm shooting for the functionality of my Jazz with a S/P switch plus the ability to solo the MM for a Stingray sound. Still trying to wrap my brain around it, and I haven't had a chance to draw anything up with the super switch yet. But the three bulletted settings are the ones I'm trying to get at a minimum. I could add a toggle switch of some sort to facilitate that, but I fear my brain would literally catch fire trying to figure it out.
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:19 PM
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On second thought, what you could do is simply shunt the inputs of the blend. The parallel resistance of the pot will still be in the circuit, however.

Position five will not be possible, however, as there are not enough poles to run two pickups in series with a blend. You can run them in parallel with the blend, though.
I'll draw a diagram for this later.
No need. I think a better way to do it is to just put both pickups on a blend and use a switch to coil tap the MM. That will give me everything I need and allow me to mix and match as I want.
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