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06-13-2008, 10:17 AM
| | | | non-vintage souding P-J setup SUGGESTIONS PLEASE
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Hi,
I have a P-bass with an extra J-bass pick up. I have this bass for years and it is time for a new sound! The bass is about 25 years and has an all maple neck.
The sound I am looking for is a sound with a deep tone and non-vintage sound. Right now the bass has an agressive growl and that vintage grind sound. I really miss some deep tone and I have to add alot of low on my amp all the time.
I am looking at an EMG active pj setup (is that any good).
Does anybody have a suggestion for something else?! (active, passive, cheap, expensive, old, new, it doensn't matter)
thanks!!
Erik | 
06-13-2008, 10:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Québec city ,Canada | | | Emg pickups are known to be very hifi, sterile and bright. I don't think it would be a good fit at all for you.
For pickups that are darker sounding...
Bartolini
Nordstrand
Seymour duncan antiquitty II series | 
06-13-2008, 10:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: D'Shaw | | | I have both Barts and EMGs for P/J and I prefer the EMGs for their tone and the fact that I find it much easier to match the outputs between the P and J pickups.
However, for just a P setup it's a toss-up between Bart and EMG. | 
06-13-2008, 11:16 AM
|  | Dr. Jim | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denton TX, Kailua HI, New York | | Quote:
Originally Posted by seriousfunk Hi,
I have a P-bass with an extra J-bass pick up. I have this bass for years and it is time for a new sound! The bass is about 25 years and has an all maple neck.
The sound I am looking for is a sound with a deep tone and non-vintage sound. Right now the bass has an agressive growl and that vintage grind sound. I really miss some deep tone and I have to add alot of low on my amp all the time.
I am looking at an EMG active pj setup (is that any good).
Does anybody have a suggestion for something else?! (active, passive, cheap, expensive, old, new, it doensn't matter)
thanks!!
Erik | Consider an outboard pre-amp, assuming the bass is still passive.
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06-13-2008, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JustOpenYourMind Emg pickups are known to be very hifi, sterile and bright. I don't think it would be a good fit at all for you.
For pickups that are darker sounding...
Bartolini
Nordstrand
Seymour duncan antiquitty II series | thanks! how about those quarter pound pickups? are those any good? | 
06-13-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Carr Consider an outboard pre-amp, assuming the bass is still passive. | Outboard pre-amp? which one do you advice? | 
06-13-2008, 03:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Québec city ,Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by seriousfunk thanks! how about those quarter pound pickups? are those any good? | It really depends on the sound you are going for.
Quarter pounders are the most mid scooped sounding pickups I ever tried.
If you are the kind of guy that cut a lot of mids to get his tone, you'll like them, if you like mids you'll hate them.
I used to like Qp's now I really hate them, They have a very big bottom, no mids and a clanky high end.
Seymour Duncan has a chart on their website about the tone of their pickups. http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones
As far as tone like I said my favorites are the antiquity's I have the antiquity one in my p-bass and it's my favorite pickup, I heard the II are even bassier, and I think it's what you are looking for.
In my J-bass I have Nordstrands Nj4's, compared to the stock pickups they have less zing and high end but much fuller mids.
You could also look into bartolini, I nerver had a bart equipped bass but I heard of them as organic and fat. | 
06-13-2008, 05:20 PM
| | | | Well, if you want a total non-vintage tone, i would say active emgs indeed...
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06-13-2008, 05:54 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Human Bass Well, if you want a total non-vintage tone, i would say active emgs indeed... | I agree. Victor Wooten does fine by them. | 
06-13-2008, 06:31 PM
|  | Registered Crazy Guy | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Massachusetts | | | I have an EMG-P in my parts bass, and i love the tones it gets, with the tone knob turned down it can get really nice lows and low mids tone, and (if you feel like it) turn the knob up all the way to an almost geddy-esque trebley tone. In addition I find the clarity to be very good versus my traditional pickup basses. EMG advertises in most of its pickup descriptions that it has boosted lower end over traditional pickups, and I find it to be quite noticeable.
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06-13-2008, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by seriousfunk thanks! how about those quarter pound pickups? are those any good? | The Sadowsky Outboard Bass Preamp/DI Pedal is my choice. https://secure.sadowsky.com/store/pr...f28314e5d8e501 | 
06-13-2008, 07:15 PM
| | | | I like the Duncan QPs - I had one in a Kramer Pioneer (rear loaded P-Bass) years ago and loved it. It sounded real big.
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06-13-2008, 07:44 PM
| | | Just stick an Aguilar OPB-3 in it with some Nordstrands like I did... modern PJ tone heaven. check out link below. Nordstrand NP4 and NJ4SE Fender Hwy1 PJ -=with soundclips=-
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06-15-2008, 08:24 AM
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you won'T even need a preamp with these....they rules!!!
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06-15-2008, 05:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hartford, CT | | | For about 30 years I have had a Bartolini(then Hi-A) pick-up in my '61 Precision. The bass was also routed for a J pick-up at the same time and it too is a Hi-A.
It doesn't sound 'modern' or sterile and doesn't growl or sound vintage, but with Labella medium flats it works for me. | 
06-15-2008, 06:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe | | For big, thick tone (and then some) I vote Villex. www.villex.com
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