Nordstrand MM4.4

i_got_a_mohawk · #1 08-04-2007, 06:16 AM

Just wondering if anyone has used this pup?

Would be great to hear opinions on how it sounds vs the MM4.2 and the standard SR pups.

Cheers

- Will

emielow · #2 08-04-2007, 07:38 AM

what is the difference between the 4.3 and the 4.4 ?

i_got_a_mohawk · #3 08-04-2007, 08:46 AM

the 4.2 is a standard humbucker
the 4.3 has an auditional dummy coil
the 4.4 is a quad coil pup

emielow · #4 08-04-2007, 10:21 AM

dummy coil / quad coil ?

can you explain?

i_got_a_mohawk · #5 08-04-2007, 10:45 AM

A dummy coil is a coil which does not produce any sound, but acts to remove hum. It gives you the benifits of a single coil sound, but without the hum.

Quad coil, means the pup has 4 coils.

Maurice Carr · #6 08-05-2007, 03:18 AM

I've got an MM5.4 which is the 5 str version of the MM4.4.

I have no idea how it sounds vs the MM4.2 and I have not compared side by side with the SR pup either.

What I do know is that it is a very versatile pup and in conjunction with the Audere 3ZB, I can get a range of good rich punchy tones.

I have it series/split/parallel switched, active or passive and the three Z modes of Audere.

Bass, Mid and Treble tone pots.

Mo

emielow · #7 08-05-2007, 03:50 AM

you can switch the 4.3 also in series, parallel and single coil, so why should you buy a 4.4 instead of a 4.3??

i_got_a_mohawk · #8 08-05-2007, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice Carr

I've got an MM5.4 which is the 5 str version of the MM4.4.

I have no idea how it sounds vs the MM4.2 and I have not compared side by side with the SR pup either.

What I do know is that it is a very versatile pup and in conjunction with the Audere 3ZB, I can get a range of good rich punchy tones.

I have it series/split/parallel switched, active or passive and the three Z modes of Audere.

Bass, Mid and Treble tone pots.

Mo

Cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by emielow

you can switch the 4.3 also in series, parallel and single coil, so why should you buy a 4.4 instead of a 4.3??

Because the 4.4 (i think) will sound slightly different, its coils are all side by side, basically like two side-by-side humbucking J pups stuck together. You also dont have to worry about needing a deeper route, which i think you'll need with the 4.3 as the dummy coil is underneath everything.

Finally, the .4s are cheaper than the .3s

BassikLee · #9 08-05-2007, 09:24 AM

Plus, if you get creative with the wiring, I am pretty sure you can do a "P bass" type thing with it, where the E/A strings are picked up by the "high" side of the pickup, and the D/G strings by the low side, still fully humbucking....

i_got_a_mohawk · #10 08-05-2007, 09:30 AM

If you have the two wires from each coil, then yeah that would be possible, good call!

Not sure if it will have 8 (maybe 9) wires tho. Cant seem to find too much about it on the net!

r379 · #11 08-05-2007, 10:44 PM

Don't know about the MM4.4 but the MM4.3 is, as I remember, designed to be used in the Sterling and may not fit in a SR without some routing. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

i_got_a_mohawk · #12 08-05-2007, 11:12 PM

Your right, I did mention that as another one of the advantages of the 4.4, it doesnt have any "On-top" coils, so you dont need to have a deeper route to accomodate it.

smakbass · #13 08-07-2007, 04:12 PM

I LOVE my 5.4 great punch great note definition.

emielow · #14 08-08-2007, 02:03 AM

nice,

are you able to make any soundclips? if possible in all the modes, single coil, series and parallel? i would be verry happy

thanks

basslyon · #15 08-08-2007, 02:18 AM

also if you run a 3 coil in paralell with a volume control on each non dummy coil (OLP Stingray style) and they're not the same volume it will hum...4 coils never hum unless they break!

Also 3 coils are for sterlings as has been metioned and they are routed differently than rays.

Nostradands sound simlar to old school stingrays and the 4 coil aims to keep that tone and add versitility

i_got_a_mohawk · #16 08-08-2007, 02:30 AM

Smakbass, how different are the single coil options? As i know you can choose either coil for SC operation (and its still humcancelling)

Thanks for confirming that about the .3 basslyon, also, i know the Nordstrands are going for that vintage sound, I was just wondering if it was compromised in the 4.4 as its a quad coil which will inherintly sound a little different to the normal humbucker

smakbass · #17 08-08-2007, 07:47 AM

I Dont have it wired like that at the moment i have it wired full on per se...

emielow · #18 08-08-2007, 07:49 AM

full on per se?

what does that mean? parallel? or is it another way you can wire it ?

if you're able to make some clips, i would like to hear it. thanks

smakbass · #19 08-08-2007, 07:50 AM

I will try to make some clips in the next day or so.

Human Bass · #20 08-08-2007, 10:11 AM

Wiring schemantics of a Delano quad-coil

http://www.delano.de/products/wiring/pdf/4conductor.pdf