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Old 01-19-2009, 12:35 PM
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I've read several posts as well as the Nordstrand web site, but I was hoping for some info from anyone who has first-hand experience with this: If you were to compare the tone/output/response of the Nordstrand Fat Stack versus the NJ-4, how might you describe it, in both the neck and bridge position for either fretted or fretless.

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Old 01-19-2009, 07:07 PM
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Come on, guys - or has this been covered in some buried post somewhere and I'm being shunned for not finding it?
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:39 PM
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Well, I can't compare to the NJ-4's, but I can compare to two different sets of Fender singles, as well as a set of Barts. I'm the guy who left the last post in the Nord pickup forum, 'Dual coils & Fat Stacks.'
Since the post (2 years ago) I have gone passive, and changed to a maple neck. But the essential differences remain as before.
To recap in 1000 words or less: I was a dual humbucker guy forever, like 20 years.
Decided I wanted the Jazz tone. Built a parts jazz, with an East pre. Hated it. Couldn't get a 'fat' sound no matter what. Humbuckers spoil you with that pillow they produce.
Didn't realize at the time that my problem was due to my approach to the instrument, which needed to change in order to get a good Jazz sound. Looong learning curve, I discovered.
I tried the 3 different above mentioned singles(actually the Barts are humcans). No result. Very frustrated.
Went to Winter NAMM 2007 and found Nordstrand. Stew or somebody was wailing away on a Nordy with Fat Stacks and an Aggie pre. I almost fell over at the sound. Collected business cards.
As soon as I got home I ordered a pair. Routed and installed. Much, much better. NOW we're getting somewhere.
Still took awhile to come to grips with the sound, but eventually I came around and now wouldn't trade them for anything. I can even get a good sound with 'normal' single coils now!

Bottom line: They are a single coil pickup(OK stacked, never mind that) and as such sound unmistakably like ordinary single coils, but fatter, as you would expect. Less 'clicky', I guess. Thicker. More 'forgiving.' They are very bright and deep in single coil mode, and slightly different in dual mode-less highs and lows, and lower output. Still very nice. A different harmonic structure than 'normal' singles, but killer. A convincing Marcus tone is available if you can do it. But it's slightly different, for sure.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:42 PM
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Okay, now that is what I was looking for. Tell me - how do you handle noise, given that they are single coil?
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:51 PM
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Well, they are about the same as 'normal' singles, in single coil mode, regarding noise. In my case that means pretty darned quiet, as my bass is mega-shielded AND I ordinarily run the pups blended about 50/50. It hasn't been an issue, yet. I mean, sure, if I walk up and put it against my TV it'll hum. But a flick of the coil tap switch fixes that, and still sounds nearly as good. Not quite, but close. I figure if I'm in an environment where airborne noise is a problem(bar with neon) the slight tone penalty with going dual-coil won't be noticed.
Here's the two different basses I've had them in:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...8/DSC01052.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...8/DSC01088.jpg
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:51 PM
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Can't speak as to the nj4's in a fretless, but the nj4se's are great fretless pickups. They do have a slight low mid emphasis (as they mention on their website) compared to most single coils I've used, but that just makes them more suited to fretless. The loss of high end only seems to be in the super high sparkly region which is completely useless for fretless playing. If I was lookinf to fit nordy J's into a fretted bass, I'd probably want those nj4s or perhaps the humcancelling variant, the nj4sv. For fretless though, the nj4se's seems to move the high end emphasis a little lower which makes the instrument seem to have greater clarity while reducing the "clack" frequencies. Plus the nj4ses have zero issue with single coil buzz.

Haven't seen nor heard the fatstacks yet.
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