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EricssonB 01-02-2013 11:33 AM

Pickup Impedance
 
(search didn't yield what I was looking for)

I hate to ask what feels like a "yeah, stupid" question, but I'm curious as how to be certain from reading tech specs of a pickup whether or not a P pickup (say, 10.4k) will match an MM-style pickup (8.4k).

Folks say that the impedance itself isn't a huge factor once you consider placement, current produced, magnets, etc.

Shoot me down, reply with a link or something. Thanks.

This is why: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f57/ja...-ss-ss-942628/

line6man 01-02-2013 12:12 PM

The impedance of a pickup means absolutely nothing on its own. For most pickups, the exact impedance is not even known. You simply know if it is higher or lower than that of another pickup, by using the DCR as a guide.

On the other hand, impedance has a significant effect on the interaction between pickups when multiple pickups are blended, unbuffered. P and MM pickups tend not to blend well, because the MM loads the P.

seang15 01-02-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by line6man
The impedance of a pickup means absolutely nothing on its own. However, it has a significant effect on the interaction between pickups when multiple pickups are blended, unbuffered.

For most pickups, the exact impedance is not even known. You simply know if it is higher or lower than than of another pickup, by using the DCR as a guide.

Sorry, what is DCR? Thanks.

line6man 01-02-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by seang15 (Post 13658042)
Sorry, what is DCR? Thanks.

DCR is DC resistance, which can be obtained with a multimeter. Impedance, on the other hand, includes both a resistance and a reactance. In the case of inductive or capacitive circuits, resistance is the real part which is not frequency dependent, and reactance is the complex part, which is frequency dependent.

seang15 01-02-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by line6man

DCR is DC resistance, which can be obtained with a multimeter. Impedance, on the other hand, includes both a resistance and a reactance. In the case of inductive or capacitive circuits, resistance is the real part which is not frequency dependent, and reactance is the complex part, which is frequency dependent.

Many thx!!

EricssonB 01-02-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by line6man (Post 13658027)
On the other hand, impedance has a significant effect on the interaction between pickups when multiple pickups are blended, unbuffered. P and MM pickups tend not to blend well, because the MM loads the P.

This is what I was getting at. Looking to have P and MM blended, so having similar impedance is probably for the best?

Is there a tolerance for that +/-xx%?

SGD Lutherie 01-02-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by line6man (Post 13658059)
Impedance, on the other hand, includes both a resistance and a reactance. In the case of inductive or capacitive circuits, resistance is the real part which is not frequency dependent, and reactance is the complex part, which is frequency dependent.

Or to make it easier to understand, impedance can be thought of as AC resistance. As the frequency rises, so does the resistance.

@EricssonB, so like L6M said, you aren't really talking impedance, but DC resistance. The higher resistance P pickup will tend to over power the lower MM, but they will work together, just not on equal footing. Kind of like with a P/J bass.

If you want to have them blend with no interaction, you need to do so using a preamp with active blending.

You should also reverse the P so they aren't so close to each other. It will sound more balanced that way.


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