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Old 04-25-2010, 04:29 PM
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Pickup placement test --- half inch by half inch with pic

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I started a thread sometime ago about where the sweetspot was located. Many contributed with many different opinions. Bottom line is what sound best on a particular bass for you.

I have been experimenting with adding a magnetic pickup to my Carvin AC50 piezo bass. I started off by putting the pickup right next to the neck as I definitely like more of a neck sound than a bridge sound. But it sucked in that position

So out came the saw and more destruction. More of a center position was better but still had the precision burp that I do not really want. So finally I made a testing system to actually test half inch by half inch to find where it sounded best.

Two 5/8" dowells taped next to the strings. Perfect for holding the pickup the same distance away from the string as it will be when it is mounted. Then I would tape the pickup in a specific place and try it and the move and try etc. The tape is a bit of a hassle but neccesary if you want to hold the bass in normal playing position. But I also tried laying it flat without tape so that I could move it easier and hear the difference quicker.

Man, what a difference 1/2 inch makes. I mean really. Stunning. How do you tell your luthier where to put the pickup for a custom bass? It makes such a difference.

I finally found a spot where the precision sound mellowed but it did not get to thin or nasally with the bridge sound.

Anyway, here is the pic: No tape as I had removed it all.
The piece of hardwood will be a pickguard to cover the carnage.

The position of the pickup in this pic is not where it will end up. It will be slightly north of there.

Sound clip: http://www.supload.com/listen?s=sVEp9G

Bass is lying flat. I moved the pickup from the extreme neck position all the way down to the bridge. I shifted the pickup 1.25" each time. This bass has black nylon flats. I think the tonal difference would be greater with rounds or other non-wrapped strings.


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Old 04-25-2010, 04:42 PM
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No soundclips?
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Old 04-25-2010, 04:43 PM
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:04 PM
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oooooh, soundclips please. i've been waiting for a thread like this!
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:57 PM
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Man, what a difference 1/2 inch makes. I mean really. Stunning. How do you tell your luthier where to put the pickup for a custom bass? It makes such a difference.
Yup.

It can be quite an earopener. I've used my 34" scale bass pickup testbed for over 20 years in my experimenting. A few years ago I built another for 30" scale basses.
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sound clips in original post
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:23 PM
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Looks like it sits about where a Stingray pickup might.
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Looks like it sits about where a Stingray pickup might.
In the original post: The position of the pickup in this pic is not where it will end up. It will be slightly north of there.
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What's up with the weird chorus/rotary organ sound?

I liked the tone 40 seconds in best.
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What's up with the weird chorus/rotary organ sound?

I liked the tone 40 seconds in best.
Keep in mind that this is a CRUDE test. The bass was lying flat on two pillows, the pickup is temporarily wired to the cut off end of a cheap 1/4" cable. No shielding. No preamp. Straight into Audacity on my computer. No processing

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Old 04-26-2010, 12:25 AM
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Too bad you didn't come up with that idea before you carved huge hole in the top of your bass.
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Gee, I could have loaned you this for a while:


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To me, the tone at 31 seconds sounds best. It seems nice and even.

That Westone is just plain weird.
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Too bad you didn't come up with that idea before you carved huge hole in the top of your bass.
Where's the fun in that ?

I have a reputation to maintain here. Cut first, measure later

However, the pickgaurd will make everything OK.
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Where's the fun in that ?

I have a reputation to maintain here. Cut first, measure later

However, the pickgaurd will make everything OK.
There's going to be a pickguard over that nice flamed maple?

What is this world coming to?
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There's going to be a pickguard over that nice flamed maple?

What is this world coming to?
You guys.....

The pickguard is going over the carnage and about 1/4" of the maple.

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Great idea. I've wanted to try that on a fretted AC40 for a long time.
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