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09-30-2010, 04:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix / Kansas City | | | Pickups for F#
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I'm looking at Seymour Duncan Blackouts for a bass tuned F#BEA, but I can't find much info on them. There are a few threads here but its always people asking for reviews and not getting them.
What pickups are recommended for going this low? Active or passive is okay with me. It's going to be Thunderbird-inspired so I was leaning to soapbars but its not a requirement.
Think two Blackout humbuckers + a Blackouts 2-band will handle that tuning? |
09-30-2010, 05:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leeds, England | | | I think it's your speaker cabs you need to worry about. I think any cabinet able to produce the fundamental that low wouldn't sound very clear anyways.
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09-30-2010, 05:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix / Kansas City | | | I'm going to be using a fEaRB, it's built for it. |
09-30-2010, 10:44 PM
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Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | | Low F# is around 23 Hz. The most prominent notes are actually the harmonics, so 46Hz and 92Hz are actually the frequencies you want to worry about, and you'll have no problem hitting those. Your pickups will likely pick up frequencies beyond human hearing with great clarity, but they are trivial.
The point is, they will work fine if you like how they sound for any other strings.
I'd go with a 3-band preamp, as the bass frequencies are generally voiced a bit lower than 2-bands and because having a mid control is amazing.
somegeezer is right - it's your rig. Your amp and cab are the most inefficient part of the subcontra amplification process.
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09-30-2010, 11:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: cincinnati | | | ever notice that guitar pickups always work alright in basses? magnets are magnets. put a strat pickup in there if you want. who cares.
besides.. 23hz is annoying. id want to keep the sub bass out and worry about the following fundamentals. IMO..
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10-01-2010, 04:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe | | IMHO and IME with different basses tuned to low F# (5 basses so far, 5- and 7-str basses), I'd suggest Villex pickups for going that low. Huge fundamental and amazing clarity as well www.villex.com
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10-01-2010, 12:10 PM
|  | needs more fuzz | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia | | | If your concern is with pickups, go with fullrangebass' suggestion.
Garry Goodman highly recommends them, too.
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10-01-2010, 03:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leeds, England | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fullrangebass IMHO and IME with different basses tuned to low F# (5 basses so far, 5- and 7-str basses), I'd suggest Villex pickups for going that low. Huge fundamental and amazing clarity as well www.villex.com | Seems like a good idea. Especially if still clear down low.
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10-01-2010, 03:57 PM
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Endorsing artist:see profile/Current Setup | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CHICAGO,IL. | | | The rig is not the most important aspect of producing the proper low F# or C# string. It's really secondary.
The body wood,pickups and electronics are more important.
I have 4 sub contra basses.
Three of them have custom Bartolini pickups with a custom Bart pre and one has Villex with a Aguilar pre.
The pickups were all voiced for a properly pronounced open low C# and F# string.
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10-03-2010, 02:43 PM
| | needs more fuzz | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia | | | I stand by everything Jauqo adds to this thread, especially when he said the rig isn't the most important.
People will argue it to death.
Definitely jump on the Villex pickups, though!
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10-03-2010, 03:23 PM
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Endorsing artist:see profile/Current Setup | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CHICAGO,IL. | | | Thank you Josh.
People will dispute me until they are blue in the face and I just watch then turn so blue that they're about to burst. And since most of them have no actual hands on experience live or in the studio when it comes to utilizing a open low F# and C# string I pay them no attention.
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10-03-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FunkMetalBass Low F# is around 23 Hz. The most prominent notes are actually the harmonics, so 46Hz and 92Hz are actually the frequencies you want to worry about, and you'll have no problem hitting those. Your pickups will likely pick up frequencies beyond human hearing with great clarity, but they are trivial.
The point is, they will work fine if you like how they sound for any other strings.
I'd go with a 3-band preamp, as the bass frequencies are generally voiced a bit lower than 2-bands and because having a mid control is amazing.
somegeezer is right - it's your rig. Your amp and cab are the most inefficient part of the subcontra amplification process. | Even harmonics above, also odd harmonics ( fundamental times 2 plus fundamental etc etc ), can dominate, depends on many factors.
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