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View Poll Results: What pickup layout[s] would be cool?
P/J with V-V-T 10 45.45%
P/J with V-V-T and a selector switch 5 22.73%
P/J with stacted V/T for each pickup and a switch 3 13.64%
P/J with stacked V/T for each, a switch, and a master volume 0 0%
P/J with a active bass cut/boost, treble cut/boost, blend, and master volume 4 18.18%
t/boostP/J with a V-V- stacked active bass cu and treble cut/boost - master volume 1 4.55%
P/J with a blend - stacked active bass cu and treble cut/boost - master volume 1 4.55%
J/P/J with a stacked V/T and a on/off switch for each pickup 0 0%
J/P/J with a stacked V/T and a on/off switch for each pickup and a master volume 0 0%
Humbucker/P/J with a stacked V/T and a on/off switch for each pickup 0 0%
Humbucker/P/J with a stacked V/T and a on/off switch for each pickup and a master volume 0 0%
MM/P/J with a stacked V/T and a on/off switch for each pickup 0 0%
MM/P/J with a stacked V/T and a on/off switch for each pickup and a master volume 1 4.55%
Other [please enlighten me!] 1 4.55%
fool, just slap in a barolini to your passive mexican fender P and learn to play! 2 9.09%
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:35 PM
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PJ wiring opinions [HUGE poll, help me narrow it down]

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Hey everyone, I've been doing some thinking on my bass wiring, I'm planning on a PJ, with maybe an extra J up in the telebass position [right up next to the fretboard] and I have a lot of ideas.

You can select multiple options, please vote in the poll and give some reasons why you gave that vote.

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Old 09-28-2010, 08:52 PM
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I say no on ridiculous setups, unless you have the preference for the bass to function a certain way, because otherwise it will just be too complicated and difficult to use.

The standard VVT setup is great for most folks.

My PJ bass is VVT B/T with a 3 way switch.
When I get a PJ set with pickups that match better in volume, I'll probably switch to VT B/T with a 3 way switch.

Also, having passive tones on each pickup is not all that useful.
They interact and become masters when the volume controls are equal.
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I say no on ridiculous setups, unless you have the preference for the bass to function a certain way, because otherwise it will just be too complicated and difficult to use.

The standard VVT setup is great for most folks.

My PJ bass is VVT B/T with a 3 way switch.
When I get a PJ set with pickups that match better in volume, I'll probably switch to VT B/T with a 3 way switch.

Also, having passive tones on each pickup is not all that useful.
They interact and become masters when the volume controls are equal.
Silly question, what does the B stand for? I'm having a hard time following your setups
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Silly question, what does the B stand for? I'm having a hard time following your setups
Bass.

(Bass/Treble.)
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Are you looking at purely passive setups?

MM/P Pickups and a 3-way selector for the MM pickup's coils. Two volumes, master tone.
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:26 PM
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I voted "other" in order to mention series/parallel switching.

My Dingwall has a 4-way switch that goes: neck/series/parallel/bridge. Very fun AND useful. (I'm seriously thinking of wiring up my J-bass this way eventually.) Series mode punches through just about anything while parallel mode is more "juicy" (good for slapping).

I find I basically never use subtle blends of pickups so any 2-pickup axes I wire up in the future will always use a switch. YMMV.
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I voted "other" in order to mention series/parallel switching.

My Dingwall has a 4-way switch that goes: neck/series/parallel/bridge. Very fun AND useful. (I'm seriously thinking of wiring up my J-bass this way eventually.) Series mode punches through just about anything while parallel mode is more "juicy" (good for slapping).

I find I basically never use subtle blends of pickups so any 2-pickup axes I wire up in the future will always use a switch. YMMV.
Hmm, this interests me.

How about a MM/P/J with a stacked volume and tone for each, and instead of an on-off switch a 3 position: /series/parallel/off.


Could this be done? any idea how?
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Hmm, this interests me.

How about a MM/P/J with a stacked volume and tone for each, and instead of an on-off switch a 3 position: /series/parallel/off.


Could this be done? any idea how?
Three tone controls is not a good idea, they will all interact.

If you want to do three volumes and a master tone with a series/single coil/parallel switch on the MM, that might be cool, but of course, you get no master volume.
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Three tone controls is not a good idea, they will all interact.

If you want to do three volumes and a master tone with a series/single coil/parallel switch on the MM, that might be cool, but of course, you get no master volume.
Okay, how about a MM/P/J with all 3 having a volume and a 3-way switch for series/parallel/off leading to a stacked master tone and volume?

My main question is how the switch would work, I'm imagining a 3-way toggle where the top is series, the bottom is parallel, and the middle is off [on-off-on switch being used] Can that even be done? Can it be done with 3 pickups? Or do I need to rotary switch/only 2 pickups?
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Okay, how about a MM/P/J with all 3 having a volume and a 3-way switch for series/parallel/off leading to a stacked master tone and volume?

My main question is how the switch would work, I'm imagining a 3-way toggle where the top is series, the bottom is parallel, and the middle is off [on-off-on switch being used] Can that even be done? Can it be done with 3 pickups? Or do I need to rotary switch/only 2 pickups?
So the series/parallel/off switch is for what? The MM pickup, or all three pickups to go series and parallel to each other?

It wouldn't be a good idea to have three pickups in series, I would imagine it would sound terrible and be ridiculously hot.
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Bass.

(Bass/Treble.)
Passive? If passive, how (if info is in public domain)?

edit: if you're that guy with 172 wiring diagrams on flickr, I've found something that fits description.

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Old 09-29-2010, 06:59 AM
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For me personally, I would do a passive P/J with a hum cancelling J pickup, V-V-T controls, and a series/parallel switch.
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Passive? If passive, how (if info is in public domain)?

edit: if you're that guy with 172 wiring diagrams on flickr, I've found something that fits description.
Bass and treble controls would be active.
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Passive? If passive, how (if info is in public domain)?

edit: if you're that guy with 172 wiring diagrams on flickr, I've found something that fits description.
Your tone knob is a passive treble cut (boosting isn't possible without a battery for supplied voltage). If you wire up a tone knob with the capacitor in series, you have a passive bass cut.
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Your tone knob is a passive treble cut (boosting isn't possible without a battery for supplied voltage). If you wire up a tone knob with the capacitor in series, you have a passive bass cut.
Really? I didn't know that. Could you draw me a diagram of it?


Also, new idea for signal path:

V-selector switch-V-super switch-T-Jack

super switch is an on-off-on toggle

top = to tone knob
middle = kill switch [thus eliminating the need for a master volume, as that's what I use it for anyways]
bottom = to jack [as a tone knob bypass, but now I may make top wired treble cut and bottom wired bass cut, idk]

How does that sound?
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