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11-19-2009, 02:38 PM
| | | | Please sell me on or off P/J
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I prefer the look and feel of a J.
But I own a killer sounding P. (I also own a J which may replace for a different spec set.) I'm convinced the builder can make everything sound good (I've had 10 instruments made by him over the years).
So, should I get a J with P/J set up?
-Does the P pickup soloed sound like a P, really, or is the presence of the other pickup and its magnetic pull changing the tone even when "off"?
-are either the both-on or bridge-favored tones anything like a J? are they worth a damn?
- is there anything to the "P/J phase issue" reference I read about in a review when the fender US deluxe P (2 pickup) came out (that this bass with its HB in the bridge allegedly solved)?
- will I, by the time I finish getting a set of pickups that balance together nicely, have created a franken-bass-tard that does nothing well?
- is this 2009, or best left in 1979?
Or is it the bomb and what am I waiting for son?
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11-19-2009, 02:59 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | | For the love of God, do a search, because this has been covered too many times for me to elaborate. | 
11-19-2009, 03:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Island, NY | | | the P pickup soloed does sound like any other P bass. the problem is you cant get classic jazz bass sounds, really only a jaco bridge pickup sound. ive never liked the sound of both pickusp on, with a PJ.
and, it is true, that the search function will provide you with pages upon pages of reading material. | 
11-19-2009, 03:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by slopeshoulder its magnetic pull changing the tone even when "off"?
! | Are you asking if the vibrations leaving the strings and being picked up by the P pickup will be diverted toward the jazz pickup in some minute way?
Please clarify. | 
11-19-2009, 03:09 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Datsgor Are you asking if the vibrations leaving the strings and being picked up by the P pickup will be diverted toward the jazz pickup in some minute way?
Please clarify. | He means that the added string pull of the J pickup will affect the way the string vibrates slightly, which will change the way it is picked up by the P pickup. | 
11-19-2009, 05:18 PM
| | | | I'll do a search.
For the love of zool, I'm new around here.
Thanks!
Yes, i do mean string pull. On guitar it is a real issue, but perhaps with the size of bass strings, it's a non-issue. | 
11-19-2009, 06:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Anaheim,Ca | | | P/J is the ONLY way to go ..best of both worlds and you can solo each as if the other weren't there and convince the listener as well.
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11-19-2009, 07:21 PM
|  | Hip No Ties | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY | | I agree: P+J is a great combination...although adding a J pickup to a P bass for extra zing is probably better than adding a P pickup to a J bass for more beef...
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11-19-2009, 07:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Central Ohio | | | If you subscribe to the theory, "You can never have TOO many basses!" then a P-J is like when someone can't decide between a sports car and a big truck, and ends up with a station wagon.
On the other hand, if, like me, "You can never have TWO (or many) basses!" (well, almost), a P-J may be exactly what you need.
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11-19-2009, 08:00 PM
|  | Hammer On! | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Babbling Brook | | The P or the Jazz at any one time, not the hybrid. It's not for everyone. Preferably, a P Bass beside a Jazz Bass-to cover the basses!
You can be a purist and not a mix-and-match kind of guy! 
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11-19-2009, 08:26 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | Yeah, P/J is the way to go if you must have a P-ish sound.
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11-19-2009, 08:30 PM
|  | just a BassGuy! Endorsing Joiner & Ben Lindsey Basses - Maker: XB Custom Cables | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Twin Cities, MN | | | +1 to J bridge pup added to P - awesome combo.
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11-19-2009, 08:32 PM
| | | | So far, I mainly only use the P on my P/J Ibanez because it just sounds the best. I do suspect the stock pickups in this thing to be crappy, because the J is very thin and weak sounding when solo'd. When the two are combined, it just sucks the mids out, and I hear more of a phasing effect than I hear a Jazz. I want to try a humbucking J pickup, but will probably just throw in a matched set with an active preamp, like Barts, EMG, or Duncans. | 
11-19-2009, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyFranklinFan P/J is the ONLY way to go ..best of both worlds and you can solo each as if the other weren't there and convince the listener as well. | I'll second that! I can get any sound I desire out of my HRPB.
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11-19-2009, 09:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Munjibunga Yeah, P/J is the way to go if you must have a P-ish sound. | Agreed. I have *never* got the whole "Pure P" thing. A PJ bass can run the P all out and then... have *options* - useful options. And when are options bad?
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