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11-30-2010, 02:50 PM
| | | | Is it poss to get this sound from a jazz?
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What pups would be best for it? Want to experiement with 125k pots to take the edge off the sound! lol | 
11-30-2010, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by manchild Want to experiement with 125k pots to take the edge off the sound! | Assuming a passive bass, 125K pots are going to provide a 62.5K resistance across the output. You're going to lose a lot of output that way. | 
11-30-2010, 03:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Antwerp, Belgium | | | On my Jazz (stock '08 AmStd) I get this tone or a dang great approximation of it with Chromes flatwound strings and a pick. I'm picking almost over the 20th fret to decrease the intensity of the pick's (1mm Dunlop tortex tri) attack. Neck pickup solo, tone pot to taste (I leave it open because it's pretty dark already).
Our instruments may vary but perhaps this nudges you in the right direction?
(IMO IME YMMV)
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11-30-2010, 03:08 PM
| | | Thanks for that 2400 - sounds good
Line6man - would only use a 125k on the tone, maybe up the volume to 500k to compensate?
Is a 250k pot not at 125k when turned half up? | 
11-30-2010, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by manchild Thanks for that 2400 - sounds good
Line6man - would only use a 125k on the tone, maybe up the volume to 500k to compensate?
Is a 250k pot not at 125k when turned half up? | Why would you want a 125K tone?
You can switch to a higher value and just roll it down further. That way the bass can still be bright when you want it to be.
A 250K tone pot is at 125K at around 4/5 of the rotation with an audio taper, and half the rotation with a linear taper.
For volumes, the same applies, but remember that there is also a resistance in series with the signal.
A 250K pot rolled down to 125K means both a 125K resistance to ground (Equivalent to a 125K pot turned all the way up.) and a 125K resistance between the pickup and output.
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11-30-2010, 03:27 PM
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11-30-2010, 03:42 PM
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11-30-2010, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by line6man Assuming a passive bass, 125K pots are going to provide a 62.5K resistance across the output. You're going to lose a lot of output that way. | You know, for the life of me, I can't get why less resistance=less output. I would've assumed the opposite. Could you explain?
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11-30-2010, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StonewallValent You know, for the life of me, I can't get why less resistance=less output. I would've assumed the opposite. Could you explain? | The less resistive the parallel load across the signal, the more you divert that signal to ground. | 
11-30-2010, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by StonewallValent You know, for the life of me, I can't get why less resistance=less output. I would've assumed the opposite. Could you explain? | Quote:
Originally Posted by line6man The less resistive the parallel load across the signal, the more you divert that signal to ground. | right; on "10", the pots are not "in line" with the pickup (series) but "between the pickup and ground" (parallel).
think of it this way: the higher the resistance, the less the signal gets through the pot and gets bled away, and the more it "stays on course" and makes it to the jack.
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11-30-2010, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by line6man The less resistive the parallel load across the signal, the more you divert that signal to ground. | Oh, right. That makes sense, for some reason I thought it just added series resistance to the signal. Thanks for informing me.
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11-30-2010, 07:40 PM
|  | My basses pay the bills that pay for more basses Unofficially Endorsing Genz Benz, Fender, Avatar TB-153 Cabs, Musicman | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale Az | | | That tone should be super simple to get out of a jazz. Sounds like a favored neck pup to me with the high end rolled off and a low mid or low end boost. A very in-articulate tone in my opinion that fails to ad any rhythmic component to the song...i can't tell if the right hand is doing anything at all...but ya know....different strokes... | 
12-02-2010, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie Just turn your tone control down. | This, and while I'm a big fan of flats, I'd say pure nickel roundwounds would me more appropriate for this sound. Flats would give too much clunk and definition (my description) in the low end.
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12-02-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie Just turn your tone control down. | this plus use an svt and add lots of compression
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