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02-04-2013, 08:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London | | | Is it possible to have just ONE active tone control? I'm assuming the answer's yes... but can you buy a single active treble circuit/knob for instance?
The reason I'm asking is I hardly use bass and mid controls and only have use for a treble control occasionally when I'm playing through a muddy speaker or a dull PA and I can't see the point in having loads of annoying knobs on the bass. | 
02-04-2013, 10:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | | Just use fixed resistors in place of pots for the controls you don't want. | 
02-04-2013, 02:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London | | | I'm after an active treble control - you know, something you can buy and install. | 
02-04-2013, 02:58 PM
|  | Registered BadAss | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: MS Gulf Coast | | | Buy a normal two-band preamp. Set the bass control where you like it, stuff it into the cavity, and forget about it. | 
02-05-2013, 01:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ctmullins Buy a normal two-band preamp. Set the bass control where you like it, stuff it into the cavity, and forget about it. | Well that's one solution! lol | 
02-05-2013, 05:32 AM
| | | | Here's your options for a "one knob" tone control.
1) What ctmullins suggested.
2) EMG's "EXB" preamp. Not a treble control, but a single knob "slap contour" control - it boosts both bass and treble as it's turned up.
3) EMG's "SPC" preamp, it's intended for guitar, it's a treble booster
4) Some other on-board treble/mid booster preamp, like the Guitarfetish MODBOARDS.
I still think #1 is your best choice. Another alternative is an outboard EQ pedal.
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02-05-2013, 08:08 AM
|  | some guy user | | | | | For the sake of clarity, I think line6man and ctmullins are making the same suggestion..
You could also : get a 2band and set it up pushpull treble/bass
Or use a stompbox style one-knob-tone (but dont do this) | 
02-05-2013, 09:05 AM
|  | Registered BadAss | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: MS Gulf Coast | | Quote:
Originally Posted by eddododo For the sake of clarity, I think line6man and ctmullins are making the same suggestion.. | Absolutely. L6M is right about everything, so I always like to parrot what he says. Makes me appear smart. Quote: |
You could also : get a 2band and set it up pushpull treble/bass
| Would that work? When you pushed or pulled the knob, wouldn't that disengage the pot from the other circuit? Quote: |
Or use a stompbox style one-knob-tone (but dont do this)
| I never used one, but I read about the old Raven Labs P-Bass preamp that used one and only one knob. Twist it clockwise and it boosted treble while slightly reducing bass. Twist it counter-clockwise and it boosted bass while slightly reducing treble. I loved the idea of this, and was going to try and implement it using a regular two-band and a double-gang pot, but I could never convince myself that concentric knobs weren't a better idea... | 
02-05-2013, 09:45 AM
| | | No, a push-pull pot won't work.... A push-pull pot combines a pot with a switch; it doesn't replace two pots.
The EMG "BTC" preamp has both the treble and bass controls on a STACKED pot. This way you can control bass and treble independently, and not have to drill an extra hole in your bass.  (image borrowed from Best Bass Gear dot com)
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02-05-2013, 12:57 PM
|  | some guy user | | | | | I should've been more specific but I was doing this from work..
the reason I suggested the push pull was so that if he buys a twoband, he could at least have the OPTION of utilizing the other band- leaves the interface tidy and simple, and gives you the trouble control you wanted in the bass control you might find useful
although at the same time having a push pull for 2 active circuits may just be asking for a lot of 'popping' | 
02-05-2013, 01:00 PM
|  | some guy user | | | | | I was also going to suggest a stacked setup, as mentioned just above me.. I figured if the goal was less knobs I wouldn't put it out there; I had forgotten about those BTC .. Really convenient to have the circuit attached to the pot
aside from all of that, I might breadboard a couple of dedicated treble boost circuits when I get home, either as a real solution for you or just to amuse myself..
keep you posted
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02-05-2013, 01:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pensacola FL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopper I'm assuming the answer's yes... but can you buy a single active treble circuit/knob for instance?
The reason I'm asking is I hardly use bass and mid controls and only have use for a treble control occasionally when I'm playing through a muddy speaker or a dull PA and I can't see the point in having loads of annoying knobs on the bass. |
I don't see the need to remuddle a bass just cause I don't use a knob or two! It could seriously effect the resale value as well. Just cause they are there doesn't mean you have to use them! Or are you building a new bass from scratch??
I wish the stuff in my life that really annoys me was as trivial as a knob I don't use!!!!!!! I envy you!
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02-05-2013, 01:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East Central Wisconsin | | | I've built quite a few preamps over the years. I've done a single knob tone, using a baxandall circuit and a dual pot with the bass and treble wired opposite of each other. The Ovation solid body Deacon guitar had this type of tone. I've seen schemes where a Fender tone stack was used, with the bass and midrange being preset with resistors, and the treble being the tone pot.
I would simply buy a two band, remove the bass control, and wire it to a trimpot and tuck it inside. | 
02-05-2013, 01:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fair Haven, MI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Dallman I would simply buy a two band, remove the bass control, and wire it to a trimpot and tuck it inside. |
+1 nice idea, this way you could tweak the bass control if needed by opening the cavity, and it keeps the overall package very small...
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02-06-2013, 12:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Dallman I've built quite a few preamps over the years. I've done a single knob tone, using a baxandall circuit and a dual pot with the bass and treble wired opposite of each other. The Ovation solid body Deacon guitar had this type of tone. I've seen schemes where a Fender tone stack was used, with the bass and midrange being preset with resistors, and the treble being the tone pot.
I would simply buy a two band, remove the bass control, and wire it to a trimpot and tuck it inside. |
Yep, I think that's the best solution! | 
02-10-2013, 12:35 AM
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02-10-2013, 01:19 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | This is exactly what you're looking for: http://www.bestbassgear.com/john-eas...ass-preamp.htm
Boosting in the 1kHz-1.5kHz range should do wonders for your tonal clarity.
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02-10-2013, 01:47 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lansing, Michigan | | | With a BTC, if you put just a regular knob on the top you hide the bass control.
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