Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Pickups & Electronics [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You
NOT's Avatar
NOT

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 10-14-2007, 09:39 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Astoria, NY
Pot types - which is which?

Sign in to disble this ad
Note: answers such as "Maui Wowee" or "Jamaican Redhair" are not helpful!

OK, so instead of working on my dissertation this weekend, I have been learning about pots, caps, and the various effects of both on a bass' tone. One thing has me lost, though, despite a rigorous search of the TB archives...

Which pots are for volume, which pots are for blend, and which pots are for tone!?!?

On Allparts, I see things like "audio taper pot", or "linear pot"... what the hell does this mean? Ideally, I'm looking for 500K volume pots, 1 Meg-ohm tone pots and 1-Meg blend pots. Can anyone explain how to tell which is which? I majored in literature, which helps very little in this case...
__________________
No one can defeat the quad-laser.
U.S. Peavey Club Member #4
  #2  
Old 10-14-2007, 12:55 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Astoria, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennW View Post
You'll want audio taper for volume and tone - the blend pot will likely be whatever it is.

You can use the search function if you're curious as to what's what.
Cool! Thanks for the info, that helps me out a lot!

... Actually I think I understand why this is, now that I think about it... Audio taper is (pardon my lack of jargon) essentially adjusting the amount of "stuff" moving through it from a given output source. For the volume pots, it's each pickup that is the output; for the tone, it's the other two pots that are the outputs. The caps, then, adjust/cut off the high or low regions of the stuff before it gets to the pots.

Yes?
__________________
No one can defeat the quad-laser.
U.S. Peavey Club Member #4
  #3  
Old 10-14-2007, 01:20 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
A "linear taper" pot, will equally increase and decrease volume (or tone) as you turn it. A human ear has problem hearing this correctly, thus "audio taper" pots were born. With and "audio taper" pot, as you move from 0 to %90 the volume increase is minimal, from %90 to full there is a sudden increase.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennW View Post
You'll want audio taper for volume and tone
This is the standard treatment for most guitars and basses, however I'm planning on experimenting with a linear pot, because I'm beginning to think audio-taper pots prevent me from mixing the two pickups of a J-bass the way I want.

As for the original question; a "pot" can be used for both volume and tone, and the value (250K, 500K, 1M) is purely personal preference. As a general rule, the more resistance value the more treble available. The industry standard is 250K for single and split coils, 500K for humbuckers.

A blend pot is nothing more than two-pots combined. A 500K blend pot is actually two 250K pots. In center position both pots are full-on, as you move towards one side, the other side's volume is decreased.
  #4  
Old 10-15-2007, 02:07 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hatfield, Herts, UK
The human ear percieves volume changes in a logrithic way. I.e to percieve double the loudness you need 10 times the power. 3000Watts is only twice as loud as 30Watts!
You volume pot start with a tiny change per degree of turn, but at the end of its travel it make a massive diference per degree.

pickup balance need "linear" pots. The rate of change is constant per degree of turn. If you drew a graph of angle against resistance it would be a straight line -hence "line-ar".

The earlyer posters believe that tone pots should be Log too. Some people don't. Its a matter of taste.

I never heard of "linear taper" before. Must be an American thing.
__________________
TRB5 MK1, TRB1005F
http://www.davethebass.com
  #5  
Old 10-15-2007, 02:26 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbassred View Post
pickup balance need "linear" pots.
What about these: http://www.basspartsresource.com/ele..._blendpots.htm

Quote:
I never heard of "linear taper" before. Must be an American thing.
Nope; I'm not American!
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:23 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.