Pre-wired control plate for passive jazz.....

funkaholic · #1 02-13-2009, 04:03 PM

Any idea where I can get a good pre-wired control plate with quality parts?
Thanks!

Willicious · #2 02-13-2009, 04:29 PM

John Wymore just built me a really nice stack knob system for my jazz:

http://www.shop.wymoreguitars.com/ca...?categoryId=30

If you don't see what you're looking for, just shoot him an e-mail.
He can build what you need.

funkaholic · #3 02-13-2009, 04:34 PM

Thanks!
I will look that up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willicious

John Wymore just built me a really nice stack knob system for my jazz:

http://www.shop.wymoreguitars.com/ca...?categoryId=30

If you don't see what you're looking for, just shoot him an e-mail.
He can build what you need.

Willicious · #4 02-13-2009, 06:15 PM

some others:

http://www.bayoucables.com/jazz-bass...ots-p-217.html

http://www.hoaglandbrothersguitarcompany.com/
( they offer a j harness through e-bay, too )

stingray69 · #5 02-13-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Willicious

some others:

http://www.bayoucables.com/jazz-bass...ots-p-217.html

http://www.hoaglandbrothersguitarcompany.com/
( they offer a j harness through e-bay, too )

+1

Especially to bayoucables - currently waiting on my order at the moment. Very high quality parts & great prices too. The only downside is the two week wait for a one-man operation.

Here's something quite different, all still completely passive: http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkw...romZR40QQ_mdoZ

funkaholic · #6 02-13-2009, 06:24 PM

Interesting, have you actually tried this?

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Originally Posted by stingray69

+1

Especially to bayoucables - currently waiting on my order at the moment. Very high quality parts & great prices too. The only downside is the two week wait for a one-man operation.

Here's something quite different, all still completely passive: http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkw...romZR40QQ_mdoZ

stingray69 · #7 02-13-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by funkaholic

Interesting, have you actually tried this?

No - I was on the fence about it for about a week before I finally decided to give Butch (Bayou Cables) my order. I think the dealbreaker for me was that as best I can tell, the circuit is constantly doing something when not bypassed. Position 1 is a mild treble cut, but how mild - 'ya know? I didn't want to drop that kind of money when all I was really after was a passive Vol/Blend/Tone harness with quality parts. I also didn't want to keep toggling the circuit bypass on/off if I couldn't find a set-it-and forget-it position I liked with the varitone.

I know a couple other TB'ers have tried them - maybe they will chime in with their experiences. From what I recall, it was all very positive experiences.

funkaholic · #8 02-13-2009, 06:36 PM

Thanks!
I am basically looking at VVT passive, looks like wymore has the best deal, CTS pots, with the knobs, 39 bucks, sounds like a good deal

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Originally Posted by stingray69

No - I was on the fence about it for about a week before I finally decided to give Butch (Bayou Cables) my order. I think the dealbreaker for me was that as best I can tell, the circuit is constantly doing something when not bypassed. Position 1 is a mild treble cut, but how mild - 'ya know? I didn't want to drop that kind of money when all I was really after was a passive Vol/Blend/Tone harness with quality parts. I also didn't want to keep toggling the circuit bypass on/off if I couldn't a set-it-and forget-it position I liked with the varitone.

I know a couple other TB'ers have tried them - maybe they will chime in with their experiences. From what I recall, it was all very positive experiences.

funkaholic · #9 02-13-2009, 06:37 PM

Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by Willicious

some others:

http://www.bayoucables.com/jazz-bass...ots-p-217.html

http://www.hoaglandbrothersguitarcompany.com/
( they offer a j harness through e-bay, too )

stingray69 · #10 02-13-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by funkaholic

Thanks!
I am basically looking at VVT passive, looks like wymore has the best deal, CTS pots, with the knobs, 39 bucks, sounds like a good deal

What is the website? I'd like to check them out for future projects.

Thanks...

funkaholic · #11 02-13-2009, 06:45 PM

http://www.shop.wymoreguitars.com/ca...?categoryId=30
Bottom of the page

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Originally Posted by stingray69

What is the website? I'd like to check them out for future projects.

Thanks...

stingray69 · #12 02-13-2009, 06:46 PM

Thank You Sir!

funkaholic · #13 02-13-2009, 06:48 PM

You and I should thanks Willicious actually

Check the second post of the thread....

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Originally Posted by stingray69

Thank You Sir!

stingray69 · #14 02-13-2009, 06:49 PM

Sorry Willicious - Thank You!

Ryan Mohr · #15 02-13-2009, 08:26 PM

I currently have a wiring harness from Butch in my J bass, great stuff!

Willicious · #16 02-13-2009, 09:19 PM

you guys are welcome.
i may have another relevant link or two hiding in my bookmarks;
if i do, i'll post them as well.
good luck on your projects.

for fun, a photo of the stack knobs on my MIM:

bongomania · #17 02-13-2009, 09:33 PM

I just bought my second harness from rawsound, both are excellent quality. As far as the question about it "doing something when not bypassed", that's not quite right. He makes a few different versions; the ones I got have a volume knob and a pickup selector switch, which are the only things affecting the signal when the Varitone is bypassed.

stingray69 · #18 02-13-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

I just bought my second harness from rawsound, both are excellent quality. As far as the question about it "doing something when not bypassed", that's not quite right. He makes a few different versions; the ones I got have a volume knob and a pickup selector switch, which are the only things affecting the signal when the Varitone is bypassed.

From what I could make of rawsound's descriptions, every position (when engaged) introduces a cut of some frequency. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I just don't know if it will appeal to me & translate well on my personal gear. I guess most of my apprehension stems from not knowing enough specifics regarding the Q width & notch depth at each varitone position & at what frequencies those cuts occur. The demo video sure sounded pretty darn good to me though, and I almost ordered one based on that alone. I may very well re-approach it in the future when I have some gig/fun money to toss around. It does indeed look very interesting.

bongomania · #19 02-13-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stingray69

From what I could make of rawsound's descriptions, every position (when engaged) introduces a cut of some frequency.

That's how passive EQ works. There are a couple of sneaky ways to create a "boost" passively, but generally speaking a passive tone setup is by definition cut-only. You want boost? You want an active preamp.

FWIW the "sneaky ways" to create boost passively are:
1) Rob energy from one frequency range in order to shunt that energy into another frequency range. I'm pretty sure that's how the Villex system works.
2) Create a tuned/tunable resonant peak in the filter. I think this also robs energy from other frequencies, but I'm not 100% sure.

Most passive setups do not take much advantage of those tricks, and are cut-only.

funkaholic · #20 02-13-2009, 11:15 PM

Nice, very nice indeed!

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Originally Posted by Willicious

you guys are welcome.
i may have another relevant link or two hiding in my bookmarks;
if i do, i'll post them as well.
good luck on your projects.

for fun, a photo of the stack knobs on my MIM: