|jbassmaniac ||09-19-2013 12:15 PM |
Replacing 2012 Deluxe Jazz N3 Pups with 96 Suhrs...
I would like to replace the 2012 American Deluxe Jazz N3 Pups in my 2012 Deluxe Jazz 5 with a set of Suhr Jazz 5 pups out of a first gen Fender Suhr Deluxe Jazz 5 and notice the leads are a bit different than the N3's. Also, the Suhr pre-amps with those old Suhr pups were 9v and not 18v like the new ones. Is there anything I should know about the Suhr's wiring up? Does anyone think this would be a good upgrade for the bass? Any help would be much appreciated.
|jbassmaniac ||09-22-2013 03:21 PM |
|jbassmaniac ||09-25-2013 02:27 AM |
What's up with everyone? Is this a question I need the board of rocket science to answer? Just looking for some help on the matter.
|bassdood ||09-26-2013 11:19 AM |
Sorry you have not received any replies. One thing that may contribute to that is that the TB search function won't consider 2-character terms in a search. So anyone searching for posts about N3 pups has a hard time. You have to search for noiseless, or Fender noiseless, for which you get a lot of hits, and then sift through them.
I don't have any experience to offer on this particular pickup switch-out topic, but I would be interested in hearing what others may have to say about it.
What makes you want to switch out the 2012 US DAJ N3's?
|jbassmaniac ||09-26-2013 04:34 PM |
Thanks for the heads up on wording. I was just hoping the Suhrs would have a bit more of a bartolini type of growl. I'm not sure whether I am going to switch them out.
some hum cancelling pups have 2 conductors ... some have a 4 conductor setup so you could ad a Coil Tap ...
are the Suhr pups active ... ( not the pre ) but the pups themselves ..?? i've ran into this a couple times ... active pups get power from the battery ... as in my older original Pedulla ET5 ... which i learned the hard way , got a new preamp for it ... then also had to replace the active pups with passive pups .... and recently had a set of Basslines that where active ..?! i didn't open it up and look before i started ordering new parts ..! whoops ...
any ways ... just a thought ... sorry if you already thought of that stuff ..!!?
fyi ... i did install some passive classic Barts ... no pre
and also tried some Nord Split Coils ... no pre ... both are very warm and growly ...
|jbassmaniac ||09-26-2013 06:06 PM |
I don't know if they are active. They came out of a USA fender Jazz Deluxe which was a preamped set up. They are two lead.
|jbassmaniac ||09-26-2013 06:08 PM |
They are split coils and they came out of a bass with a similar but older preamp design.
|walterw ||09-26-2013 09:50 PM |
the suhrs are themselves not active; they'll wire right in with no problem, and should work just fine.
if the N3s had 3 leads, the 3rd is just an extra ground for the pickup body; do the suhrs have the little metal grille thing underneath to ground the magnets? you'll need that, and you need to wire that metal piece to ground, to do its job; the pickups will work fine without it, but two of the magnets on each pickup will be really noisy if touched.
|jbassmaniac ||09-26-2013 10:03 PM |
WalterW, can I make a metal ground strip? They have the brass strips that are springy under each pup but they did not come with any extra parts. I don't want noise when I touch the pups though.
|walterw ||09-26-2013 10:15 PM |
those springy brass strips are what i was talking about!
just make sure they have a wire running to ground and you'll be good.
|jbassmaniac ||09-26-2013 10:35 PM |
|jbassmaniac ||09-26-2013 10:42 PM |
Thanks for the information everyone!
|walterw ||09-27-2013 05:00 PM |
Originally Posted by jbassmaniac
Here are a few pics of the pups. Hey Walter, do you think these would be an upgrade in tone over the N3's?
tough call; i prefer split coils like these over stacks as being typically louder and livelier, but this particular design was abandoned a long time ago; you'll just have to try them and see. i remember them as sounding good, though.
also, be sure to orient them both the same way, so that the short coil faces the same side; otherwise they'll be hideously out of polarity with each other when they're both on.
|jbassmaniac ||09-27-2013 05:50 PM |
Will do. Thank you Walter
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