A Rick 4003 neck pickup on a P Bass?

[Nightvision]

Thanks for sharing knowledge but this subject is about a Rick pickup on a P Bass.
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[Nightvision]

The Hi Gain neck pickup is on the way...
The bass will be wired Vol / Tone / 5 way selector switch.
That will be nice

[Nightvision]

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Fender New American Standard, Duncan SPB1 & SJB1, Rickenbacker Hi Gain neck pickup.
Wiring with Vol / tone / 5 way selector switch

[ClassicAmps]

I did kind of the same thing, love the tone, although mine is a bit more forward (4001 style).

This PBass was built with (american version) parts I scored for cheap off eBay over a period of two years or so, I'm into it like $400.
(wound the pickups myself of course)

I may re-build the J pickup and install a Ric bridge bobbin assembly under a J cover, sometimes the J pickup sounds to "honkey-tonk" piano for my taste, dunno.

I have it set up different that a typical PJ, I changed it to use push-pull switches for the volume controls. The 1st VOL switches the entire bass from "P" style wiring over to "Ric" style wiring, I experimented with different combinations of adding the P pickup in with the Rick/J and jst finally decided is was better for me to just switch from one type to the other. I added a switchcraft toggle which is in the circuit when in Ric-mode, and I moved the jack to the edge of the guitar (ala Tele style) so I would have a spot for the tone control.

I will be changing the tone pot to a dual-concentric so when in Ric-mode I have separate tone for both pickups.

[Nightvision]

Very cool!
We have almost the same bass, just a bit different.
I don't really understand the possibility of your bass, what is the combination of pickups you have?
Mine is wired like a Strat so I don't have the Rick and the J together... what do u think about this combination? In case of i lost something...

I love all of the sounds and combinations of my bass except maybe the P and the Rick together, I think it's a bit "weird" sound... What do you prefer on yours?

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by ClassicAmps

I did kind of the same thing...

Hey Brad, I was trying to find that photo on your site when I read this thread.

[ClassicAmps]

Yeah, I don't know what happened with it David, I had to re-upload it.

[ClassicAmps]

Originally Posted by Nightvision

Very cool!
We have almost the same bass, just a bit different.
I don't really understand the possibility of your bass, what is the combination of pickups you have?
Mine is wired like a Strat so I don't have the Rick and the J together... what do u think about this combination? In case of i lost something...

I love all of the sounds and combinations of my bass except maybe the P and the Rick together, I think it's a bit "weird" sound... What do you prefer on yours?

I agree, the P pickup seems weird (to me) when combining it with either the R or J pickups, there is an out of phase thing going on with one of the coils in the P pickup. I recall David (Schwab) having a suggestion on how to fix (or minimize) that but I forgot what he said to do (sorry David, I really was listening) and then since I had added the push-pull it kinda made it unnesessary in my case.

Yeah IMHO the R goes well with the J pickup, pretty much just as the two single coils do on a Ric. Not exactly like a Ric as the J has a more "brittle" sound than a Ric bridge (to me). You could have the option by adding a push-pull (tone or vol control) and wire it so that when you pull it you add-in the neck pickup to whatever the Strat switch is doing. I do a similar thing on my Strat (I add the bridge, but it's still it's the same idea)

I wish I had gotten a rosewood fretboard neck, this neck is one of those 52 (or 56?) vintage re-issue maple necks and is brighter than I was wanting, but I got it at a good price so couldn't complain.

When I attended a studio session last August (as a technician) and happened to bring this bass along to to show the studio owner and dink around with when the band was not there. When the band-de-jour took a break the bass player had seen it in the corner of the control room and asked about it, and asked if he could play it and he played it for like three minutes and turned to me and said "how much to put one in my bass?". I was pleased.

[Spectrum]

Originally Posted by Nightvision

She's Alive!!! Alive!!!



Fender New American Standard, Duncan SPB1 & SJB1, Rickenbacker Hi Gain neck pickup.
Wiring with Vol / tone / 5 way selector switch

Nice. This would be a really cool mod for a VM Jaguar, which comes in the same color/pg combo and already has stacked knobs. Would give one the excuse to add some switches to the Jag, too, to make it more "jaguarry".

[Ric5]

Originally Posted by Nightvision

Hi,
I would like to create a "monster", a Fender PJ Bass with a 4003 neck pickup between the P pickup and the neck (same position of a Rick 4003).

Wiring like Vol/Tone/5 way selector switch

Duncan SPB1/SJB1 for the PJ set and a classic 4003 neck pickup (or Duncan SRB1)

What do you think of this project? possible, impossible, terrible, interesting?

Actually this has been done several times ... back in the 60s and 70s when bass players wanted to add low end to their p-bass they added a neck pickup.

[ClassicAmps]

Originally Posted by Ric5

Actually this has been done several times ... back in the 60s and 70s...

Of course it has.

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by ClassicAmps

I agree, the P pickup seems weird (to me) when combining it with either the R or J pickups, there is an out of phase thing going on with one of the coils in the P pickup. I recall David (Schwab) having a suggestion on how to fix (or minimize) that but I forgot what he said to do (sorry David, I really was listening) and then since I had added the push-pull it kinda made it unnesessary in my case.

Change the polarity of that coil.

[ClassicAmps]

Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie

Change the polarity of that coil.

Ah yes that was it. Next time I have it apart I will do that, thank's David!. I'll send ya a PM about it when it comes up again if you don't mind.

Nightvision, I mounted my neck pickup differently than you did (on the scratchplate) when I routed the recess I placed wood shims (shelves) in the ends of the cavity and the pickup screws mount it directly to the wood. It was a huge hastle getting the pickup height correct so I wouldn't "recommend" doing it the way I did it, but I suppose it helps get some resonance into the pickup.

I dug out some more pics, the sharp-eye'd amoung us will probably notice I was missing a pickup mounting screw on the J pickup when these pic's were taken:

[ClassicAmps]

and here's a picture of the pickup cavity showing the shims/shelves, and making the stainless steel switch tip:

[PlungerModerno]

This Idea of Stu Cooks is catching on

http://riverising.tripod.com/stu/bassplayer.htm

Monster basses all around. There's something about the wife position isn't there. THUMP THUMP THUMP!

[PlungerModerno]

Originally Posted by TheEmptyCell

Stu Cook from CCR did it year ago, P pickup didn't get moved at all.

Ok, beat me to it.

Now there's a gentleman who plays the Bass.

[fourstringbliss]

I'm going to do this same thing with this bass:



I'm going to go with one of those high-gain Ric neck replacement pickups and mount it through the pickguard like Nightvision did. I think I'll use black mini toggle switches for pickup selection and go with a master volume/master tone setup. Maybe I'll just keep a dummy pot in the extra hole for appearances. The little red switch in the pic lets me choose either MM coil or both.

[Flux Jetson]

Sooo ... any place can fella can hear this a bit better (Ric pickup on a P-bass, or even a J-bass for that matter)?

Any SoundClouds or Vidz or ???

[ClassicAmps]

I don't have any sound clips to post, sorry.
(do need to make some when I get a chance)

[Flux Jetson]

Originally Posted by ClassicAmps

I don't have any sound clips to post, sorry.
(do need to make some when I get a chance)

Totally cool. I understand the ~time~ thing. I've sub'd to this thread so I'll keep tabs of progess.

Thanks!