Everything went into a Focusrite Scarlett straight into Reaper. No compression, effects, etc.
Both are setup with fairly low action.
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I'd say the sound of the Jag in Ric mode is pretty much bang on target, and I dig the bridge sound as well. This is a great guideline for anyone who wants to cop the Ric tone. I recall someone stating on another forum that the '51 P singlecoil is very close in terms of dimensions to the Ric bridge pickup and this pretty much proves it. You, sir, have my respect for daring do this to a Jag and getting an excellent result out of it.
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Thanks Stealth! This is what I thought Fender should have done with the Jag from the get go; Give it a unique voice. We've got enough J basses in their lineup, no need for another one dressed up differently. There's very little I would change about it. Adding binding to the neck, contouring the heel (like some of the CS basses), and maybe changing the neck profile are about all I would do. the '51 pickups were an easy choice as I've always loved the sound of the old school P basses. I also chose them for aesthetic purposes, as I think they look like Jag guitar pickups. I originally planned on having white pickup covers made for them, but I like the black well enough.
Flux, I pretty much agree about the Jag surpassing the Ric, and about the bridge pickup on the Ric being a little nicer sounding (I'm wondering if it has to do with the pickup height). It kinda makes me want to get rid of the Ric, to be honest.
Bliss, I like the humbucker Idea, and considered going that route, but I'm not too into the look. I think it sounds like it would make a killer sounding bass though!
I'm sure it was posted that '51s were used on your bass, but I missed that verification along the way. I was guessing that was what you had going on there. I had no idea that those pickups sounded like that!
So with us being in agreement about the Ric/bridge sounding a bit better ... I wonder ... is there an other pickup better suited for that role in the Jag? Perhaps put a '51 in the neck F24, and maybe a J-bridge (the longer J pickup) at the middle/F36? And then what at the actual bridge position (stay with the '51?)
All I know, is that the '51 in the F24 neck is a dead-on winnah! Especially when combined with one more '51 at the middle F36 position.
Which presents a conflict. The '51 at F36 sounds GREAT with another '51 at F24. But the middle/F36 '51 played solo isn't quite as good as the Ric's bridge played solo. So ..... what ...... EQ/process the middle '51 when solo'd? Replace it with something else? Or maybe attempt to get a good sound with the Middle '51 when combined with the bridge '51? Or maybe use something else in the bridge position so when combined with the middle '51 it gives a better tone than when the middle '51 is solo'd?
The newer Rick pickups are wound way too hot and are too dark sounding. The neck pickups also use very weak rubber magnets.
The 4001 basses had lower output pickups, but they were very bright.
I routinely get newer Rick pickups to rewind to vintage specs.
That's a cool Jag!
How hot is too hot? The pickups I'm planning on using in my project would be two MM style humbuckers at 8.4k each and a J which is wound to 10k. How would splitting the MM's affect impedance? Would they still be 8.4k or something lower?
I'm sure it was posted that '51s were used on your bass, but I missed that verification along the way. I was guessing that was what you had going on there. I had no idea that those pickups sounded like that!
So with us being in agreement about the Ric/bridge sounding a bit better ... I wonder ... is there an other pickup better suited for that role in the Jag? Perhaps put a '51 in the neck F24, and maybe a J-bridge (the longer J pickup) at the middle/F36? And then what at the actual bridge position (stay with the '51?)
All I know, is that the '51 in the F24 neck is a dead-on winnah! Especially when combined with one more '51 at the middle F36 position.
Which presents a conflict. The '51 at F36 sounds GREAT with another '51 at F24. But the middle/F36 '51 played solo isn't quite as good as the Ric's bridge played solo. So ..... what ...... EQ/process the middle '51 when solo'd? Replace it with something else? Or maybe attempt to get a good sound with the Middle '51 when combined with the bridge '51? Or maybe use something else in the bridge position so when combined with the middle '51 it gives a better tone than when the middle '51 is solo'd?
ACK!!!!!
Honestly, I'm of the "close enough for Rock & Roll" school of thought. The differences could Have nothing to do with the pickup itself, and more of the bass and the way it was constructed.
It'd make for a cool experiment, but the Jag was an experiment in itself, and I'm more than happy with the results.
Better might not be the right word for what I'm trying to say. More like a different shade of awesome. I guess I don't really have a preference at the end of the day.
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The newer Rick pickups are wound way too hot and are too dark sounding. The neck pickups also use very weak rubber magnets.
The 4001 basses had lower output pickups, but they were very bright.
I routinely get newer Rick pickups to rewind to vintage specs.
That's a cool Jag!
Thanks!! I've been considering new pickups for the Ric for a long time now. Do you make drop in replacements? I'd prefer that so I could always bring it back to stock if I wanted.
I've been looking at the Barden Ric set, but I've been on the fence about 'em.
